Suicide hub loctite application suggestions
 

Yes, a wordy title.

First, please don't flame me about the risks of a suicide hub. I fully understand the inherent risks but I really don't have enough money to buy a new wheel right now.

After riding a few months without applying any loctite (only a BB lockring), I decided to buy some loctite. Essentially, when I went to remove the cog, it wouldn't budge by any means so I did the best I could do and applied some loctite to the BB lockring threads. I was out riding today and -- slip -- the cog slipped on the backpedal. I'm using the red loctite. Did I not apply enough to the lockring or do I need to somehow remove the cog to apply loctite to its threads in order for this suicidal method to work? Thanks in advance.

take the cog of the hub, red locktite the threads on both, install cog. rotafix until it's tight as hell. let sit overnight.

Okay, I'll bite. What on earth is ROTAFIX?

Richard

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pretty much using your wheel as a chain whip..

rotafix is a way of tightening down a cog with more leverage than you would a chain whip.

I have a sucide wheel with this set up and no lockring. Hasn't come loose yet.

I can't believe I'm even getting in on one of these threads, but if you're running a suicide hub, you need to commit to either mostly using your brakes to stop or crashing and getting hurt. I ran one for a long time and would do it again any time, but I would have 2 brakes on the bike and wouldn't expect to backpedal any harder than for trackstanding.

yeah.. i should have probably posted that i have a front brake that i use.

Remove lockring and cog
Totally degrease threads on all components
Cover hub threads with loctite
Use rotafix method to secure cog and spanner tool for lockring
it's really really not going to come off unless you jam backwards with a 1:3 gear ratio or something

This is the preferred method.

Also, I'd recommend a dollop of good ol' cyanoacrylate to affix your health insurance card to your forehead.

my friend has been riding with a cog kept on with locktite since like september . . . hasn't had a problem yet

I've run a suicide setup with blue loctite and a bb lockring, and the whole mess rotafixed together, for over 3,000 miles with out a single problem. I wouldn't ever ride without a brake, suicide hub or not.

I haven't ever used a lockring or even locktite for that matter. I have a front brake and use it for quick stops for nomal slowing I use leg power and haven't had my cog unscrew yet. I was dicussing it with a friend and we decided that under normal slowing even IF it came loose it would take quite a few revolutions for it to actually come off so you should have time to pedal forward and screw it back on. I think the only way its going to be dangerous is if you are skidding to stop which is something that's way to hard for me anyway...
$0.02

Degrease is key. I'd even go as far as using a non-wetting cleaner (eg: loctite primer, elect contact cleaner, etc). Loctite needs reactive metal contact and a lack of air to cure, so the cleaner the better.
There are a couple wicking compounds you can try if the cog is on too tight to remove w/conventional methods.
Wouldn't use red, though. You need heat to remove that stuff, and with an Alum shell and steel cog, the shell will swell into the cog threads when heated, making it near impossible to remove w/o damage.

that's just........suicide.