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vinnydelnegro 10-26-06 03:52 PM

Worker Owned Frame Building Co-ops
 
The only company that I know of that is a worker owned co-op is Circle A. Does anyone know of other worker owned frame building co-ops in this country or overseas?

girona 10-26-06 04:35 PM

Orbea is part of a larger cooperative called "Mondragon Corporacion Cooperativa"... don't know much else about it though.

jetbike 10-26-06 04:50 PM

Brixton Cycles are a worker's co-op, but they're not framebuilders.

http://www.brixtoncycles.co.uk/

GirlAnachronism 10-26-06 04:50 PM

Mondragon is an awesome co-op in the Basque country in Spain. They make a ton (like crazy large amounts) of stuff. I've never been there, but I heard a lot about it when I was living in Spain, and one of my friends visited and said it was amazing.

They pretty much rule.

progre-ss 10-26-06 04:52 PM

Independent Fabrications is another employee owned frame-building company aren't they?

http://www.ifbikes.com/

mander 10-26-06 05:06 PM

Urbane Cyclist in Toronto sell very nice, no-frills bikes and frames under the Urbanite brand, but I have the impression they get their frames from somewhere. Anyhow they are definitely a co-op.

http://ucycle.com/bikes/index2.php?cat=urbanite

baxtefer 10-26-06 05:18 PM

If!

Aeroplane 10-26-06 07:00 PM

Most smaller custom shops are technically worker-owned, in that the only worker is the owner. Does that count?

Landgolier 10-26-06 07:23 PM

umm, and we should care what form of industrial organization characterizes particular frame shops why?

jacobs 10-26-06 08:43 PM

My small operation is most certainly worker owned and operated, as are a large number of independent framebuilders.

http://www.jacobsbicycles.com

shapelike 10-26-06 08:51 PM


Originally Posted by mander
Urbane Cyclist in Toronto sell very nice, no-frills bikes and frames under the Urbanite brand, but I have the impression they get their frames from somewhere. Anyhow they are definitely a co-op.

http://ucycle.com/bikes/index2.php?cat=urbanite

Err, no. There are 4 partners. The rest are just usual staff and their frames are sourced from Taiwan. They're still a good shop though.

mander 10-26-06 08:55 PM

I will take your word for it shapelike, I just assumed based on seeing this thingee:

http://ucycle.com/Common/urblogo.gif

dustinlikewhat 10-26-06 09:03 PM

what's a rough price on an IF? I've been poking around for a custom frame

apotnolid 10-26-06 09:11 PM

around $2100 for a painted f+f with no braze-ons. that's usually what they retail for in the dealer shops (remember, all IFs are "custom" built but not necessarily for you." i think if you order one directly from them it comes down to about $1700 base, with any additional customization work done without too much extra charge.

they are great looking bikes, and all three i've ridden have been really nice.

shapelike 10-26-06 09:13 PM


Originally Posted by mander
I will take your word for it shapelike, I just assumed based on seeing this thingee:

http://ucycle.com/Common/urblogo.gif

Yep, I think it was a w.c. in the past but it's definitely run by 4 partners now.

dustinlikewhat 10-26-06 09:19 PM


Originally Posted by apotnolid
around $2100 for a painted f+f with no braze-ons. that's usually what they retail for in the dealer shops (remember, all IFs are "custom" built but not necessarily for you." i think if you order one directly from them it comes down to about $1700 base, with any additional customization work done without too much extra charge.

they are great looking bikes, and all three i've ridden have been really nice.

is that frame or is that complete?

apotnolid 10-26-06 09:25 PM

frame and fork w/paint. nothing else. that's for the steel, if you want Ti obviously it's much more.

vinnydelnegro 10-26-06 09:49 PM


Originally Posted by jacobs
My small operation is most certainly worker owned and operated, as are a large number of independent framebuilders.

http://www.jacobsbicycles.com

dang....$850 for a lugged steel track frame has got to be the most reasonable price i've seen so far. are the 1010 style dropouts horizontal dropouts or vertical? how long is the wait? do you have any "off the peg" frames for less $? beautiful frames by the way. that seat cluster in your gallery is the shiz.

mander 10-26-06 11:50 PM

A fixed-specific frame with 1010 style dropouts? Genius, I love it! *bookmarks jacobs' site*

Placid Casual 10-27-06 04:52 AM


Originally Posted by Landgolier
umm, and we should care what form of industrial organization characterizes particular frame shops why?

Umm, and the OP said that anybody besides himself should care what form of industrial organization characterizes particular frame shops where?

jacobs 11-24-06 10:33 AM


Originally Posted by vinnydelnegro
dang....$850 for a lugged steel track frame has got to be the most reasonable price i've seen so far. are the 1010 style dropouts horizontal dropouts or vertical? how long is the wait? do you have any "off the peg" frames for less $? beautiful frames by the way. that seat cluster in your gallery is the shiz.

Sorry, It took me a month to reply. I don't want to violate forum rules, so very short here - anything further please go to PM.

1010 style dropouts are horizontal dropouts. The Campagnolo 1010, and 1010b are a very classic, beautiful forged dropout seen on many of the best frames of their time.

http://www.velostuf.com/campy1010ati.jpg

My wait time is short. No "off the peg" frames, full custom builds only.

Thanks for the kind words!

bobdanger 11-25-06 12:49 AM


Originally Posted by apotnolid
around $2100 for a painted f+f with no braze-ons.

i got this far and shot beer out of my nose.

jacobs 11-25-06 08:42 AM

I wrote a reply, but I'm going to send a PM.

Thanks for the interest everyone!

mcatano 11-25-06 08:49 AM

I hope it involved a screen shot of John Locke and "DON'T TELL ME WHAT I CAN'T DO!" written in all caps.

jacobs 11-25-06 10:08 AM

Not quite, but rest assured, my prices aren't going to change yet.

I do however feel like my labor is going at a ridiculously cheap rate...so:



dang....$850 for a lugged steel track frame has got to be the most reasonable price i've seen so far.
it's not reasonable, it's a steal. Get in while my prices are low, because they will go up more as my wait list grows.


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