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Toshi Straps/Dura Ace Pedals

Old 11-02-06, 06:46 PM
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Toshi Straps/Dura Ace Pedals

Hey guys, so i won some DuraAce pedals with Toshi doublestrap on ebay....These pedals look like they are not meant for double straps. What is the real benefit of double straps? Is there even any benefit on a pedal like this...or should I scrap these and get some single straps. I could also cut these straps in half to make them into single straps. Thanks guys! Here is a pic of the straps:
https://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=320040527489
Link to the auction so you can see what I'm working with.
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Old 11-02-06, 07:03 PM
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Do NOT cut these straps.
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here's a link to the same pedals with lesser quality straps...lots of pics.

https://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...1208&rd=1&rd=1

your setup is nice. don't change a thing.
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Why do you want to change it? Have you ridden with them and experienced some problem? Those straps are super expensive, listen to el twe and don't cut them.
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Holy ****, $227 for pedals and now you're second guessing the straps.
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that is how you run doubles on the DA pedals. they are fine.

there is nothing unique about the way those are set-up.
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Old 11-02-06, 08:10 PM
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You paid that much?!? Do you plan on using them on the track? Using the cleats?
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$227 seemed like a good price!?! THe pedals RETAIL at $359 and the straps are $100. So $227 seemed good! Anyhow, are you sure that is how they are supposed to be laced? Mine have the rear strap going through the "normal" spot...and the front strap going over the clip. Would that be ok too? ARe they good pedals? They sure look badass!
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Is it really beneficial to run a double on this pedal though? It looks like it's truly meant for a single. Would it make more sense to sell these and get a single Kashimax or Toshi?
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fyi, the double straps are more secure, you feel more connected. if you search you can find a lot of people who swear by them, and will never go back to singles. The straps you won are about $100 and you would ruin them if you cut them in half. If you hate them, flip that **** on ebay, buy some decent single straps and make some of the $227 you dropped on pedals back.
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Track racers use those pedals with double-straps and cleats for security. That's the proper strap routing for that pedal. If you don't need the security, then sell the straps and cleats.
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Originally Posted by ewwhite
Track racers use those pedals with double-straps and cleats for security. That's the proper strap routing for that pedal. If you don't need the security, then sell the straps and cleats.
yes, just please don't cut those straps...those are at the top of many of our "dream upgrades" list [glances angrily at mediocre soma doubles on my bike]...
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There is no such thing as retail on those pedals anymore, they haven't been made for years. And no pedals are truly made for double straps, that's weirdo trackie stuff, you have to figure out how to make it work. Luckily someone did that for you. Now find some shoes to bolt those cleats into.
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Old 11-02-06, 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by adamsallez
ARe they good pedals? They sure look badass!
Spoken like a real aficionado of high-end cycling gear. $227 on pedals you're unsure are "good". I love it.
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want to enjoy your bike? research what you want to buy, and buy what works
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Originally Posted by luckycat
There is no such thing as retail on those pedals anymore, they haven't been made for years.
yes there is retail pricing. call EAI - they will tell you.
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Did they tell Ben's to charge over three hundred dollars for them? Maybe EAI has some old stock, but that doesn't mean that they set the prices. There is a european ebay seller that had a bunch of those pedals recently for less than a hundred in the box.

And really, 227 isn't that bad a deal with cleats and double straps, not great but not bad.
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Ben's also charges $100 for an HKK Vertex chain. Hardly an accurate gauge.
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Cleats + clips + straps anywhere but on the track = silly. Unless you're a trackie, sell off that mess and buy the right tool for the job.
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Yeah, that pedal/cleat/double strap setup is what most pro track racers use. Seems like a waste to get them thrashed out on the street, but that decision is yours, not ours. Personally, I'd say you could try to sell them to a trackie and buy a decent set of regular clip/strap pedals if you're not going to use them with the cleats and doubles. But if you are planning on racing on the 'drome, those are pretty much the best of the best, so enjoy. Actually, come to think of it, they're a pretty bad pedal to use without using the cleat, since the back plate sticks up about a quarter of an inch over the top of the pedal body. This creates a pretty bad hotspot.

...And to answer the original post, double straps are for more security, so you're less likely to pull out, as well as balancing the pressure through the two straps. With the cleat, pull-out is pretty much non existant, since the cleat design prevents the foot from sliding out backward or lifting up in the front, and the straps keep the cleat secure in the back.

And one last thing, if you like the shape of those pedals, but decide not to use the dura ace ones, you can usually find the lower model 600 type pedals on ebay for pretty cheap. They have a very similar design, but a different bearing/spindle assembly. And they're not as sought after by track racers.
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God, this is so great.
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and suddenly the whole myth of fixed-gear efficiency / practicality vanishes in the flip of a pedal
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Heheheh. I have a pair of the 600 equivalent on my Bates track bike. I sold another pair on ebay recently for, I don't know, about £18? That's less than $40. Outside that the straps are expensive, I think you'd have trouble convincing me the DA pedals were worth $180 more. Specially if I didn't know whether or not they were good pedals......
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