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The best damned tire lever EVER

Old 12-22-06, 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted by FridgeRobot
not if you can go a week without skidding for 800 blocks
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Old 12-27-06, 11:23 PM
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QuickStick works for me.

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I like that thing a friend has one and it rocks my sock but I am pretty well set with my pedros lifetime warranty and all but that is on the list for the future
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Park Tool: Shop Tire Tool
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Old 12-28-06, 03:07 PM
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I've got a set of metal core plastic coated levers made by soma. They kick piles of ass for bad rim/tire combos.
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Originally Posted by BostonFixed
I bought it used at my favorite LBS..they only had one.
The thing in the middle is a detachable tire lever, and there is another tire lever at the top of the other part.

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ahhhhhh! the famous VAR tool.
even better than the bead jack, in that it's actually portable.

i think it's even back in production now...
http://www.biketoolsetc.com/index.cg...item_id=VR-425
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Old 12-28-06, 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Jerseysbest
Looks like a sex toy
One in the pink, one in the stink.
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Originally Posted by loaf View Post
I've got a set of metal core plastic coated levers made by soma. They kick piles of ass for bad rim/tire combos.
I have 2 pairs of these (recently fractured an end off one on the tightest rim/tire combo I've used to-date though, which led me to finding this thread). They're awesome in terms of strength, but they don't do a damned thing to save you crushing tubes.

The SpeedLever, mentioned above, is a really neat concept, but it's a piece of crap: It's useless for tight tires in terms of its "clever" (sliding) mounting method, and it's flimsy so it can't be used as a lever, either. You're just as well off (if not better) sliding something like the Soma levers along the rim by hand just as you'd use the SpeedLever -- I do precisely that when removing race clinchers.

The Quick Stick also does precisely squat to help with truly tight beads, as it's mechanically impossible to get in-between the rim and the bead to engage the rim.

I'm definitely looking forward to getting my mitts on a few of these Kool-Stop tools, although they look to be a pain in the butt to get in Canada.
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Old 08-10-09, 05:59 PM
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after changing tires once a week ,it seems like it only takes me a few minutes off and then back on with one of those cheap tire levers . That thing would confuse me .
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What is it with people posting silly replies in here? Would you care to have a go at my current tire/rim combination with normal tire levers? The point is that there are rim/tire combinations out there that are bordering on being mechanically impossible to install, especially without damaging a tube.

There are many combinations of rims and tires out there that give people a hard time given a set of levers, but which I can get on and off with my bare hands. Make no mistake that we're talking about an entirely different ballpark of pain-in-the-a$$ tire installation.

I didn't think tire installation could ever get -this- bad until last Thursday when I ended up cursing and throwing tire levers around and wondering what I was going to do with my brand-new wheelset that I may never find a way to install tires on. For the record I'm running Conti GP4000S 700x23 on Kinlin XR-300 rims. The rims have a ridiculously shallow rim bed, and the fit is so tight that you need a tool to move the bead side to side inside the rim once it's (half-)mounted. I swore I'd never buy these rims again, but if this tool does what it claims it can I'll certainly change my tune on that one.

For those of you with "normal" PITA tires, the Soma levers work great and are basically indestructible under normal conditions (not what I ended up doing to get my tires on). They're a bit on the heavy side, though, so something like the Park FRN levers may do just as well at significantly lower weight.
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Old 08-10-09, 07:33 PM
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some combinations, especially unstretched, can be a handful. i burned a couple tubes with a recent mounting of some new vittorias.
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Originally Posted by adriano View Post
some combinations, especially unstretched, can be a handful. i burned a couple tubes with a recent mounting of some new vittorias.
For the second one of these wheels I prestretched the bead with 2 steel-core levers at the same time and still destroyed the first tube. LBS up here in Canuckistan says they can't get the Kool-Stop tool but they've found "some alternatives" in their catalogs, so I should come by and have a look-see. I'm wondering if this isn't just SpeedLever/Park TL-10/etc., but we'll see -- perhaps there's an even better take on this concept out there somewhere.
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Old 08-11-09, 12:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Fugazi Dave View Post
Front tire. I have to run a 19mm in front or else my tire doesn't clear the fork crown. Wider tires in back, no problems mounting there.

No, you don't have to bottom out axle on drop outs. It could easily take 23mm or even 25mm as I do on my track-street-ridden-fg (as in way better quality ride). Granted u may need to file off lawyer tabs and double check bolts torque but it's well worth it.
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Old 08-11-09, 01:45 AM
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Originally Posted by indigophox View Post
What is it with people posting silly replies in here? Would you care to have a go at my current tire/rim combination with normal tire levers? The point is that there are rim/tire combinations out there that are bordering on being mechanically impossible to install, especially without damaging a tube.

There are many combinations of rims and tires out there that give people a hard time given a set of levers, but which I can get on and off with my bare hands. Make no mistake that we're talking about an entirely different ballpark of pain-in-the-a$$ tire installation.

I didn't think tire installation could ever get -this- bad until last Thursday when I ended up cursing and throwing tire levers around and wondering what I was going to do with my brand-new wheelset that I may never find a way to install tires on. For the record I'm running Conti GP4000S 700x23 on Kinlin XR-300 rims. The rims have a ridiculously shallow rim bed, and the fit is so tight that you need a tool to move the bead side to side inside the rim once it's (half-)mounted. I swore I'd never buy these rims again, but if this tool does what it claims it can I'll certainly change my tune on that one.

For those of you with "normal" PITA tires, the Soma levers work great and are basically indestructible under normal conditions (not what I ended up doing to get my tires on). They're a bit on the heavy side, though, so something like the Park FRN levers may do just as well at significantly lower weight.
Sorry . take that tire to a shop and have somebody with determination or just more experience put it on for you .Might cost you less. Just don't get a flat .

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Old 08-11-09, 03:39 AM
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Originally Posted by spinerguy View Post
No, you don't have to bottom out axle on drop outs. It could easily take 23mm or even 25mm as I do on my track-street-ridden-fg (as in way better quality ride). Granted u may need to file off lawyer tabs and double check bolts torque but it's well worth it.
Not safe, especially city riding with potholes and **** like that which will exert unexpected amounts of force on your front wheel. Last thing you want is for it to pound the axle up into the fork end, have the tire jam into the fork crown, and go flying.

With the original track fork on my bike, I did have to run a 19mm tire for it to clear. Period.
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Old 08-11-09, 10:35 AM
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I was convinced I needed a special tool to pop on a tight tire rim combo. Then I remembered to work the radially opposite portion of the bead deep into the rim and I popped it in with a little technique. Knowledge weighs nothing :-/
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Originally Posted by adriano View Post
some combinations, especially unstretched, can be a handful. i burned a couple tubes with a recent mounting of some new vittorias.
Must be a Vittoria thing. A friend wrecked a Vittoria Pave trying to get it on a Mavic Speed City wheel. I nicked a couple tubes and invented some new swears while putting a set of Randonneur-Cross 28mm on my old Wolber T410 Alpine rims, and I use plain steel long levers.
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Old 08-11-09, 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Wil Davis View Post
Can it be used for removing the tyre?

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Great question that remains unaswered.
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Does the Park TL-10 not work that great? I was thinking about purchasing one of those.

http://www.parktool.com/products/det...7&item=TL%2D10
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Originally Posted by ilikebikes View Post
Great question that remains unaswered.
i'm pretty sure someone said no.

it's for mounting tires. splurge 4 bucks on some pedros or whatever
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