Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Singlespeed & Fixed Gear
Reload this Page >

Help me build a French track bike.

Search
Notices
Singlespeed & Fixed Gear "I still feel that variable gears are only for people over forty-five. Isn't it better to triumph by the strength of your muscles than by the artifice of a derailer? We are getting soft...As for me, give me a fixed gear!"-- Henri Desgrange (31 January 1865 - 16 August 1940)

Help me build a French track bike.

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 12-22-06, 07:52 PM
  #1  
RIP Shiznaz.
Thread Starter
 
DoshKel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: World
Posts: 2,603

Bikes: 1983 Bianchi Eco Pista

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Help me build a French track bike.

Ok, so I am seriously considering selling my Concept and building up this Gitane from Fyxomatosis:



Actually, I have my Concept apart right now and am planning to take pictures tomorrow and then put it up on Ebay. But, the thing is, I have seriously limited experience with French track components. I would love for you guys to help me out. I would also appreciate this like nothing else.

I have a wheelset, pedals and saddle already (subject to change later though), and as you can see, the Gitane comes with BB and headset. I still need seat post, stem, bars, and crankset. Maybe a new saddle also if the seatpost I buy has different rail size. I'm trying to keep it period, and background specific, but i'm sure that can come at a later date.

So, I humbly ask, how should I build this beaut up?
DoshKel is offline  
Old 12-22-06, 07:57 PM
  #2  
TRUED 'TIL DEATH
 
DerekRI's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Rhode Island
Posts: 793
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Well, the french threaded BB is all set.. what diameter stem does it take? I know older french stuff is narrower than 1".
DerekRI is offline  
Old 12-22-06, 08:01 PM
  #3  
RIP Shiznaz.
Thread Starter
 
DoshKel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: World
Posts: 2,603

Bikes: 1983 Bianchi Eco Pista

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I'm fairly sure older French stems are 22mm. I'll check on that.
DoshKel is offline  
Old 12-22-06, 08:04 PM
  #4  
blah
 
onetwentyeight's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Oakland, CA
Posts: 5,573
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 5 Times in 3 Posts
I had a friend who managed to fit a regular nitto stem in his gitane with no problem.

bb will have odd threading, too, but phil wood will solve that. the only other oddity ive seen with french bikes is that the front spacing for the hub was narrower. but a very minor resetting of the fork solved that...
onetwentyeight is offline  
Old 12-22-06, 08:32 PM
  #5  
TRUED 'TIL DEATH
 
DerekRI's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Rhode Island
Posts: 793
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Yeah, sheldon says to just take 5 minutes to take a normal stem, wrap sandpaper around it, twist.. and ta-da! It fits.. and yeah, my pug conversion had a narrower front fork, but it works with a little "persuasion".. do that a bunch of times, and it won't be necessary anymore.
DerekRI is offline  
Old 12-22-06, 08:34 PM
  #6  
Wake Up America!
 
helvetica's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: San Leandro, CA
Posts: 417

Bikes: Bridgestone MB-1, Expert Dave Scott, Balance MTB

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
it needs a white bandana.
helvetica is offline  
Old 12-22-06, 08:35 PM
  #7  
RIP Shiznaz.
Thread Starter
 
DoshKel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: World
Posts: 2,603

Bikes: 1983 Bianchi Eco Pista

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Yea, i've been looking around and it seems I can just convert parts to fit. Which is a lot easier for the early stages of the bike. I'll probably just build it up with pretty random parts, and wait until I win the lottery nto go French specific.

So what do you guys think I should put on it? I would love to hear everyone's thoughts.
DoshKel is offline  
Old 12-22-06, 08:39 PM
  #8  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 251
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
i just converted a gitane roadie i found in my rafters at home to fixed.
diaper eater is offline  
Old 12-22-06, 08:40 PM
  #9  
blah
 
onetwentyeight's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Oakland, CA
Posts: 5,573
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 5 Times in 3 Posts
campagnolo, campagnolo, campagnolo!! (i am thinking rounded, not fluted for the cranks, crec if you win the lottery?)

front end should be ttt or cinelli.

at least, thats how i would do it.
onetwentyeight is offline  
Old 12-22-06, 08:50 PM
  #10  
señor member
 
seaneee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: yay area
Posts: 1,157

Bikes: Malvern Path Racer, Schwinn LeTour, Follis, Bridgestone 400 (RIP), concord 2sp

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by DerekRI
Yeah, sheldon says to just take 5 minutes to take a normal stem, wrap sandpaper around it, twist.. and ta-da! It fits.. and yeah, my pug conversion had a narrower front fork, but it works with a little "persuasion".. do that a bunch of times, and it won't be necessary anymore.
5 minutes my @ss. You can do it, but not in 5 minutes and sandpaper. It took me like an hour, but it's doable. But if you decide to, only do it to an alloy stem, steel will rust.

BSA= 22.2
French= 22.0

BTW Velo Orange has some rad gold french headsets for pretty cheap too.
seaneee is offline  
Old 12-22-06, 08:55 PM
  #11  
or tarckeemoon, depending
 
marqueemoon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: the pesto of cities
Posts: 7,017

Bikes: Davidson Impulse, Merckx Titanium AX, Bruce Gordon Rock & Road, Cross Check custom build, On-One Il Pomino, Shawver Cycles cross, Zion 737, Mercian Vincitore, Brompton S1L, Charge Juicer

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
marqueemoon is offline  
Old 12-22-06, 08:57 PM
  #12  
RIP Shiznaz.
Thread Starter
 
DoshKel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: World
Posts: 2,603

Bikes: 1983 Bianchi Eco Pista

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by onetwentyeight
campagnolo, campagnolo, campagnolo!! (i am thinking rounded, not fluted for the cranks, crec if you win the lottery?)

front end should be ttt or cinelli.

at least, thats how i would do it.
Oh god yes.

I'm thinking ttt for stem and bars as well. This is mainly because a) I can get them for real cheap from a friend, and b) they are hott.

I should probably find out with the spindle length for this BB is.
DoshKel is offline  
Old 12-22-06, 09:01 PM
  #13  
Doortrapper
 
popluhv's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Syracuse, NY
Posts: 892
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Specialities TA
popluhv is offline  
Old 12-22-06, 09:04 PM
  #14  
blah
 
onetwentyeight's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Oakland, CA
Posts: 5,573
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 5 Times in 3 Posts
too vintage-y for that frame, in my opinion. that thing is calling for 80s parts. TA's modern stuff looks very bland to my eye.
onetwentyeight is offline  
Old 12-22-06, 09:05 PM
  #15  
Senior Member
 
sers's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Salem, MA
Posts: 2,188

Bikes: Land Shark, Level Professional, Tsunami singlespeed, Giant Reign 1

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
sers is offline  
Old 12-22-06, 09:08 PM
  #16  
blah
 
onetwentyeight's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Oakland, CA
Posts: 5,573
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 5 Times in 3 Posts


1978 catalogue. matches those decals. i stand by my previous build idea tho, id change a few things from their stock build. that stem. blech!
onetwentyeight is offline  
Old 12-22-06, 10:03 PM
  #17  
RIP Shiznaz.
Thread Starter
 
DoshKel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: World
Posts: 2,603

Bikes: 1983 Bianchi Eco Pista

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Wow... thanks so much 128. That gives me some great ideas. I want those tires as well .
DoshKel is offline  
Old 12-22-06, 10:31 PM
  #18  
Banned.
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 4,416
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
That frame is wicked overpriced with shipping from AU. $700 for just the frame shipped! You'd be lucky to get $700 for your complete concept..
BostonFixed is offline  
Old 12-22-06, 10:47 PM
  #19  
dmc
Senior Member
 
dmc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 134
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
^^^I agree that the price is a bit high, but the fact that he has multiple vintage track frames in stock at one time is pretty cool. To my knowledge, there's not a lot of people keeping 10-20 vintage frames in stock that are all available for sale to anyone.... He should certainly be able to charge more for that service and make a bit of money out of it.

If you find a frame you really like, I don't think there is a problem with paying a little more than its *worth* to get it. It might be a while before a similar Gitane pops up on eBay with a well maintained hs and bb in this same size.
dmc is offline  
Old 12-22-06, 10:50 PM
  #20  
Banned.
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 4,416
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
The ****ty us dollar and the shipping is what kills you..a few years ago the exchange rate used to be like 1.50-2AUD/1 USD or something.
BostonFixed is offline  
Old 12-22-06, 11:36 PM
  #21  
hunter, gatherer
 
coelcanth's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 1,183
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
i've got a cool 3ttt stem for french steerers up for trade...
perfect vintage for this frame.. its a bit long, 135mm
coelcanth is offline  
Old 12-23-06, 12:31 AM
  #22  
(((Fully Awake)))
 
Serendipper's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: ~Serenading with sensous soliloquies whilst singing supple sentences that are simultaneously suppling my sonnets with serenity serendipitously.~ -Serendipper
Posts: 5,589

Bikes: Guerciotti Pista-Giant Carbon-Bridgestone300- Batavus Type Champion Road Bike, Specialized Hardrock Commuter, On-One The Gimp (SS Rigid MTB/hit by a truck)- Raleigh Sports 3-speed,Gatsby Scorcher, comming soon...The Penny Farthing Highwheel!

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Great idea for a vintage build! You have good taste.

Stronglight Crankset
TA pedals
Mavic wheels
Ideale Saddle
Campy hubs
3ttt stem
Dugast tires
__________________
__________________________________________________________________________________________________

無上甚深微妙法 .... 百千萬劫難遭遇..... 我今見聞得受持
Serendipper is offline  
Old 12-23-06, 02:09 AM
  #23  
blah
 
onetwentyeight's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Oakland, CA
Posts: 5,573
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 5 Times in 3 Posts
serendipper - its a pretty build, but it wont hold up to abuse. theres a balance between restoration and function. also for some reason the japanese are tripping out over high end ideale saddles, they are going for way over their value. they love the vintage french componentry.
onetwentyeight is offline  
Old 12-23-06, 02:20 AM
  #24  
re:member
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Cracow, Poland
Posts: 874

Bikes: unknown make TT bike, fixed; Romet Sport, gone; titanium Pinarello gone;Colnago with Campy C-Record/Super Record,on it's way; Funny Gianni Motta; Buehler track, Polrad track chrome; titanium MTB on 28'', fixed; Tri Wheeler, fixed

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by DoshKel
I'm fairly sure older French stems are 22mm. I'll check on that.
Let me check my parts bin - some older Polish frames used 22mm stems - I had two of these: 100 or 110mm and 70mm. I will PM you when I find them.
vobopl is offline  
Old 12-23-06, 03:02 AM
  #25  
(((Fully Awake)))
 
Serendipper's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: ~Serenading with sensous soliloquies whilst singing supple sentences that are simultaneously suppling my sonnets with serenity serendipitously.~ -Serendipper
Posts: 5,589

Bikes: Guerciotti Pista-Giant Carbon-Bridgestone300- Batavus Type Champion Road Bike, Specialized Hardrock Commuter, On-One The Gimp (SS Rigid MTB/hit by a truck)- Raleigh Sports 3-speed,Gatsby Scorcher, comming soon...The Penny Farthing Highwheel!

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by onetwentyeight
...its a pretty build, but it wont hold up to abuse. theres a balance between restoration and function.
You just gave me a wicked insight into my current project's conundrum.
__________________
__________________________________________________________________________________________________

無上甚深微妙法 .... 百千萬劫難遭遇..... 我今見聞得受持
Serendipper is offline  


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.