Fixie to a road bike?
#1
Come on you reds!
Thread Starter
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Strong Island
Posts: 776
Bikes: Bikeless in NY, due to a few thugs. But I do own a Kestrel in Florida
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Fixie to a road bike?
I am surprised(pleasently) that fixies are alot cheaper than road bikes as a whole. Now, me being new this could be a ignorant observation, but what price range or group of fixies would be the equivalent to a $3000-$5000 road bike. For example, (severe upgrades excluded) is there a stock fixie that is sold for more than the under 1000 dollar range.
Now could it be that since a fixie is naturally used for urban riding and rough pothole terrain and heavy traffic where accidents are alot more common a exspensiive bike isnt as appealing to people therefore they arent made or thats left up to upgrades?
Im so confused, please help me out(Please bare with this thread.)
Many thanks
Scarp
Now could it be that since a fixie is naturally used for urban riding and rough pothole terrain and heavy traffic where accidents are alot more common a exspensiive bike isnt as appealing to people therefore they arent made or thats left up to upgrades?
Im so confused, please help me out(Please bare with this thread.)
Many thanks
Scarp
#2
You know you want to.
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Norman, Oklahoma
Posts: 1,894
Bikes: Pinarello Prince, 1980's 531 steel fixie commuter, FrankenMTB
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Comparing a street fixie to a roadie is not quite right. Compairing a track bike to a roadie is more appropriate, and while still a crapton cheaper than its geared counterpart, track bikes still get to purchase $$$$ wheels and $$$ cranks.
__________________
Weather today: Hot. Humid. Potholes.
Weather today: Hot. Humid. Potholes.
#3
Senior Member
Oh heck yes. The pure track racing bikes for pros can go for massive bucks. (Check out the price on the Langster, and that's not even close to the best tech available.)
Bianchi Pista Concept
Raleigh Rush Hour Pro
Cinelli Vigorelli (frame only)
Specialized S-Works Langster
I think what you're forgetting is fixed gear really comes from track racing (at least nowadays)... so the 'natural' use is on a Veldrome. The urban use is secondary.
Bianchi Pista Concept
Raleigh Rush Hour Pro
Cinelli Vigorelli (frame only)
Specialized S-Works Langster
I think what you're forgetting is fixed gear really comes from track racing (at least nowadays)... so the 'natural' use is on a Veldrome. The urban use is secondary.
#4
otherwiseordinary
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: California
Posts: 697
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Simply put, less stuff (gears, brakes) == less cost of building a bike.
You could spend $5000+ on a fixed gear bike with all the fancy trimmings.
My only input is a nice wheelset is where one should spend their money.
Forget the 8 spoke wheels. Those are for chumps
You could spend $5000+ on a fixed gear bike with all the fancy trimmings.
My only input is a nice wheelset is where one should spend their money.
Forget the 8 spoke wheels. Those are for chumps
#5
Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 134
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
~$10,000 for frame and fork retail:
~$4,000 frame and fork:
In answer to your question, they do make high dollar carbon track frames that are similar to a carbon "superbike". People do ride these on the track, but I've never seen them used as a street bike (i don't doubt someone has done it or will do it). I think with road cycling, you have a lot of people with lots of cash that do group rides and the like that don't mind dropping $3-$5+ k on a bike. These bikes are ofen just ridden on long rides and then stored inside. Most people that ride fixed don't just ride group rides... they commute, lock up, and often use their bike as their main mode of transportation. I don't know many that would commute on and lock up a $5000 road bike just as not many would lock up a Look Athena track frame. Of the people that do own very expensive fixed gear bikes, generally they are just used as a track racer and not a road ride.
Some people do build up expensive fixed/track bikes to ride on the road and lock up, but they are usually a custom steel frame from a respected builder with rare or vintage components. They can still run $3000+, but I'd guess most of these riders have a cheaper bike they ride in the rain or to lock up, etc. A custom steel frame from Nagasawa will cost $2000+:
~$4,000 frame and fork:
In answer to your question, they do make high dollar carbon track frames that are similar to a carbon "superbike". People do ride these on the track, but I've never seen them used as a street bike (i don't doubt someone has done it or will do it). I think with road cycling, you have a lot of people with lots of cash that do group rides and the like that don't mind dropping $3-$5+ k on a bike. These bikes are ofen just ridden on long rides and then stored inside. Most people that ride fixed don't just ride group rides... they commute, lock up, and often use their bike as their main mode of transportation. I don't know many that would commute on and lock up a $5000 road bike just as not many would lock up a Look Athena track frame. Of the people that do own very expensive fixed gear bikes, generally they are just used as a track racer and not a road ride.
Some people do build up expensive fixed/track bikes to ride on the road and lock up, but they are usually a custom steel frame from a respected builder with rare or vintage components. They can still run $3000+, but I'd guess most of these riders have a cheaper bike they ride in the rain or to lock up, etc. A custom steel frame from Nagasawa will cost $2000+:
#6
Headed to the Library...
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: DC
Posts: 607
Bikes: 2003 cherry red Bianchi Giro, Quattro Assi Team 2000 Rocket
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Yea, you won't find "stock" built bikes (ie purchased as a complete bike) outside of the standard Langster/Pista/Rush Hour range. If your intent is to spend alot of money, you can certainly do it on a track bike, no question. Your choices are a) classic steel frame, nagasawa is mentioned above, or b) technical carbon track frames, the latter of which you barely (if ever) see on the road.
FWIW, my track bike cost much more than my road bike used for races. It ain't hard to pad the price tag.
FWIW, my track bike cost much more than my road bike used for races. It ain't hard to pad the price tag.
#8
Paste Taster
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Sacramento, CA
Posts: 4,392
Bikes: , Jury Bike, Moto Outcast 29, Spicer standard track frame and spicer custom steel sprint frame.
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
yeah my bike I bought as a frame and picked all the parts and it was about 1500 to 1700 bucks
and the one I am paying on is 1600 bucks ish
its better to hand pick parts if you know what you are looking for otherwise just buy and ebay track bike for starters until you learn what you want
and the one I am paying on is 1600 bucks ish
its better to hand pick parts if you know what you are looking for otherwise just buy and ebay track bike for starters until you learn what you want
#9
Paste Taster
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Sacramento, CA
Posts: 4,392
Bikes: , Jury Bike, Moto Outcast 29, Spicer standard track frame and spicer custom steel sprint frame.
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
yo dmr cruise the bike biz site much???
#10
Come on you reds!
Thread Starter
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Strong Island
Posts: 776
Bikes: Bikeless in NY, due to a few thugs. But I do own a Kestrel in Florida
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Thank you.
I see I am mistaken.
By the way, that look frame is sexxxxy.
I see I am mistaken.
By the way, that look frame is sexxxxy.
#11
DNPAIMFB
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Cowtown, AB
Posts: 4,655
Bikes: Titus El Guapo, Misfit diSSent, Cervelo Soloist Carbon, Wabi Lightning, et al.
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Also, if you want road geometry, you can spring for a custom steel or Ti frame. I think custom steel will start at $1200 and Ti from about $1500 [Setavento]. I think there are custom carbons out there, but I don't know prices.
#14
Paste Taster
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Sacramento, CA
Posts: 4,392
Bikes: , Jury Bike, Moto Outcast 29, Spicer standard track frame and spicer custom steel sprint frame.
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Originally Posted by LóFarkas
What on earth is the rear hub on that Nagasawa? It's ridiculous.
chub hub
a very obscure santa cruz hub maker that only made a hand full of em carbon fiber and ll sealed cart bearing super sweet super stiff