School me on Pake frames, info ?
 

Wsup,

What's the deal with Pake frames ? I'm new to the whole fixed gear scene and
I was just wondering if a Pake frame would be good for a beginner like me ?

Pro's / Con's ?

Thanks.

Here's some pics:

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personally, I don't think they are worth the price because the tubes are just straight up 4130. For the price an IRO Mark V or even IRO Angus is a way better deal.

weight of frame:
Pake: something around 5 lbs
Mark V: 4.3 lbs

That's almost a pound and the Mark V is cheaper or around the same price depending where you buy the Pake.

pros - cheap, dexterous as ****, cheap, decals on top of clear coat

cons -heavy

pro or con - road-ish geometry, plain

OO.

Yeah, I was also interested in the IRO Mark V. A lot of people have been
recommending me to buy a Mark V.

the pake is good one of my friends has one and it is solid granted the guy is only a buck 50 ish

I'm pretty sure the Mark V is 4130 as well. The Angus is upgraded to 631. The Pake sizing makes much more sense than the IRO sizing.

I had a 55cm weighed out, came out to 4.33lb. So it's heavy but not 5ish.

Sorry, but can someone inform me about these #'s ? :o

4130 is standard chromoly steel the iro mark v and the pake are both made out of no descript tube sets(the tubing used to make the frame) other slightly more expensive frames have name brand tubes that are butted ( the thickness of metal varies over distance making it lighter usually thicker at the ends and skinnier in the middle) i.e. tange prestige columbus reynolds 52o, 631, 831
for about the same price as the pake you can get a cayne uno or a khs flite 100 from spicer and for a little more you could get one of his standard al frames which are very nice if you are feeling the weight thing

check out spicercycles.com

PAKE are from a guy who works or worked at SOMA . It is his project.

This is what I remember. First seen them at TrackStar in NYC.

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CEYA!

pake = gas pipe rush

i like mine. it's nothing special but it certainly gets the job done.http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o...ellohey006.jpg

come now. it aint that bad.

To the OP - if you want a decent bife for cheep and for fast, get an iro.

Thanks for all the advice/info. I'm thinking of just buying a IRO Mark V at this point.

Does anyone have like a beginner tutorial for fixies ? What parts do I need for a complete bike ?

puma has a book put out that was written by the squid called fixed gear 101 get it if you plan on riding

frame
wheels
headset
bars
stem
saddle
seatpost
pedals
cranks
bottom bracket
chainring
chain
cog
lockring
a front brake

Yeah, forgot about that one. Thanks.

My main bike is a Pake. It serves well for commuting, errands, and exercise rides up to 30 miles - good, basic bike. If you plan to compete or train seriously, you probably want something fancier. I figure bike + me + water + bag + lunch + change or clothes + tools + spare parts weigh in around 220 pounds. Double butting would reduce that by a percent. Not an issue in my book.

IRO sells the mark v as a complete bike if you aren't too keen on building the bike yourself.

Functionally speaking, pake=iro. They frames are both about the same- same quality, construction, and tubing, the only real difference is the geometry. An IRO is probably cheaper than the pake.

Oh, one other thing.

Pake seat post is 27.0 mm or 26.8. mm. I'm not sure about the latter, but 27.0 mm is weird. Most bikes take 27.2 mm. If you want cheapest possible bike, shop for a seat post at the same time you shop for frame.

just get the iro complete they have a great customer service rap and a great wearantee

other than the weight, i love my Pake. get what you want. IRO is a good way to go if you want to buy your bike complete. Pake is just as good if you want to build it up yourself (as i did).

oh, and you can get cheap (not pretty, but ~$15) seatposts to fit the Pake, or $70 thompson posts if you want...

does the pake have cable things?

no.

no (as said) but it is drilled for a rear brake... should you choose to put one on you'd have to attach the cable with zip ties or something. the rear brake hole has come in handy, as of recent, for me because i got a rear fender that attaches there... muy bueno

I ride a Pake. I love it. It's heavy, but so what. Weight (within reason) is only really an issue when you're climbing alot. In any case it's alot lighter than my 1x1 with a 25lb baby in the child seat.

Click on my sig and see the Pake-ness