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Broken tire lever... Are you kidding?! :(

Old 01-11-07, 02:24 PM
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Broken tire lever... Are you kidding?! :(

So I just had a new back wheel built, brought it home yesterday, and in the process of putting my relatively new (ridden for a week before I got the new set I was waiting on coming in the mail, became my "spare") Vittoria Rubino on, I BROKE my tire lever. So now I've got a tire that's halfway on, and god damn this thing is tough as nails. I feel like I'm going to end up hurting myself if I keep trying to get it on. Has anyone had a really tough tire installation before? Makes me wonder how people change tubes on the go... Anyway, while I remain transportation-less and hope for a ride to my LBS in the near future, anyone know of a substitute for a tire lever?
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I got a pair of Nylon-sleeved stainless steel core tire levers from my LBS.

You could always use a large flathead screwdriver but you have to be _really_ careful with those. Besides avoiding puncture, try not to slide the screwdriver/lever once it's under the tire.
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I have wire-bead Rubinos. There are biotch to get on... but if you're forced to use tire levers to get the tire on, something sounds wrong to me. I'd get a different kind of tire (maybe a cheapo until your new rims arrive).

You shouldn't need any tools to get the tire on. If getting a different tire is out, try lubing the surfaces of the bead and the rim with soapy water. That might help the tire slide on. You still shouldn't need any tools, although you may end up with some blisters on your hands if it's that stiff.
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i wouldnt do the screw driver.. I've had one too many occasions where I said to myself.. "i'm gonna be super safe" and ended up scratching the **** out of something. If anything.. take the tire off and stretch it out?? maybe take some talcum powder.. it might help roll that ***** on.
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those tires are notoriously undersized !
see this recent thred:

https://bikeforums.net/showthread.php...ighlight=lever
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Old 01-11-07, 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by coelcanth
those tires are notoriously undersized !
see this recent thred:

https://bikeforums.net/showthread.php...ighlight=lever
Thanks, I'll look into getting one of those myself.

As for the blisters I'm pretty sure I'm already there, and I'd like to challenge anyone on bikeforums to come to my apartment and finish putting this thing on with their bare hands. ;_;

I'm going to try the soapy water thing though. That sounds promising.

Edit: Just to further specify, the new rim is a Sun ME14A. Not really oversided as far as I can tell.
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Originally Posted by kmart
I got a pair of Nylon-sleeved stainless steel core tire levers from my LBS.

You could always use a large flathead screwdriver but you have to be _really_ careful with those. Besides avoiding puncture, try not to slide the screwdriver/lever once it's under the tire.
There's never a good reason to use screwdriver unless it's an emergency. Scratching rims, denting them, puncturing tires, tubes.
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The open /close lever on a quick release skewer
just be careful of nipping the tube

works for me when I am touring.

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Some rim/tire combos are just hard to work with. I would recommend the Soma steel cored levers. They should help. Don't use a screwdriver or you may damage the rim.
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Originally Posted by barba
Some rim/tire combos are just hard to work with. I would recommend the Soma steel cored levers. They should help. Don't use a screwdriver or you may damage the rim.
It WAS a soma steel-cored lever. The core doesn't go all the way to the end of the thing ;_;

Also: GG I just pinched the tube in 2 different places. I've never had to deal with patching flats before (I am lightweight and lucky, I guess-- it's been over a year of riding and this is the first time I've used my patchkit), how long should I ride on a patch?
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God was I pissed when I originally made this post...

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Old 01-11-07, 03:19 PM
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One of my friends always runs his tires in the clothes dryer for 15 minutes before putting them on. He could be crazy (ok, he sorta is) but he swears it makes them go on easier.
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Sun rims are pretty much universally a *****, less so than matrix rims of old, but still a *****.

Technique is really important with tough tires, you gotta be using all your strength as efficiently as possible. I typically use the palm of my hand with a glove on to try and push the bead over. It takes a lot of practice and an occaisionally strained muscle.
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I have a set of vredestein ricorsos with a wire bead and they were a beast to mount too I also use pedro's tire levers about 3 bucks a set and they have a lifetime warranty on em
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yeah those tires are notoriously tight
Tioga has this stuff called "bead-wax" that works great. Also motorcycle shops have some great tire levers (they're probably a bit big to carry around though)
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i spent an hour and a half trying to get a rubino pro onto my old front rim. i thought i was going to cry it took so long. oddly enough, the back tire went on pretty easily. so it could have been the rim.
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Those soma steel core levers snapped too easily on me. I use a pedros DH tire lever for tough tires its like a screwdriver handle with a big flat head on it.
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Originally Posted by youth
how long should I ride on a patch?
as long as you want/need to.
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Originally Posted by coelcanth
those tires are notoriously undersized !
see this recent thred:

https://bikeforums.net/showthread.php...ighlight=lever
good to know, I've had the same experience with vittoria's before. I couldn't get the #$@! off and thought I was just a wimp. I also broke a tire lever on one.
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The Park tool levers are pretty durable and new Vittoria's are always difficult to install.
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It's all about the grip. I've never met a tire I couldn't palm on. I only carry levers to pull tires off. You know how you put your hands together to make farting noises? Do that, but with the wheel between them. Then squeeze and slide. Pressure's over a larger area so you get less blisters, and you can get enough leverage to weasel any tire on.
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There are rim+tyre combos that are too difficult to mount by hand, I assure you. You just never came across one.
That said, I think most tyre levers snap because the user forces them the wrong way. You should go slowly, centimetre by centimetre, sliding the lever along the rim, and not pulling it out to reinsert it 3 inches further away.
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Originally Posted by LóFarkas
That said, I think most tyre levers snap because the user forces them the wrong way. You should go slowly, centimetre by centimetre, sliding the lever along the rim, and not pulling it out to reinsert it 3 inches further away.
Thank you! I've seen a couple of my riding buddies wreck their $5 levers trying to pry on their tires. I only need one, and I've pulled and replaced DH tires with it. Sliding is the key. Here's my method for really tough combos:

Get the tire 3/4 on. Have the lever in below where the bead is still out, the wheel standing up; the lever should be sticking out at or below the horizontal level. Sit on the wheel so that the lever is between your legs. Grab the lever with both hands, and pull with your back. Sitting on the wheel keeps it from slippling, and you get to use your whole body to get that tire lever around. Works like a charm.
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Originally Posted by LóFarkas
There are rim+tyre combos that are too difficult to mount by hand, I assure you. You just never came across one.
That said, I think most tyre levers snap because the user forces them the wrong way. You should go slowly, centimetre by centimetre, sliding the lever along the rim, and not pulling it out to reinsert it 3 inches further away.
Well, I'll keep that in mind, but I won't hold my breath

Sliding the lever along the rim has resulted in tearing the rubber around the bead in a few of my experiences. It's one of the reasons I switched to the hand method.
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Originally Posted by Eatadonut
Well, I'll keep that in mind, but I won't hold my breath

Sliding the lever along the rim has resulted in tearing the rubber around the bead in a few of my experiences. It's one of the reasons I switched to the hand method.
A smear of liquid soap on the bead will cure that problem…

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