bonechilling

The only problem is that I don't think Tony is offering a 46cm
frame with this buy-in. He's a pretty accommodating guy though,
so you might want to drop him a line and see if he'll make a one-
off for you. It doesn't seem like it's a big deal to add a new size,
since he's making me a 50cm Rob Roy.

Seamus

As far as I know, just the three colors. A bead-blast and powder in the color of your choice shouldn't cost too much...

Jim

slim_77

I wanna do a build for my wife. She requires a 27-28" standover and I was thinking that the 50cm could work with smaller wheels, but she needs a brake...so...yeah. I'm not sure if the long reach calipers will, um, reach.

Anyone?

slim_77

I emailed Tony about this and have not heard back yet (that was yesterday)...be sure to post if you get an answer before me!
thanks...

joshuastar

actually, i'm in the same situation. so, that's at least three people who need a smaller bike. a 46 would do just fine, i thiink.

ryand

I called Tony already on Monday about the 46cm. He said no to ordering them in the new frameset. Perhaps you can ask him about buying a discounted Mark V? Also, if we get enough people together that are willing to do a 46, maybe he would do it. I think he didn't want to do just one though.

ryand

****, with me getting a 46 as well, we are up to 4 people.

Lets wait until Wednesday. I will call him again and tell him x people want a 46, will you do it for the new frames, or just Mark Vs for these people.

dirtyphotons

one thing. smaller wheels on a frame designed for 700c wheels makes pedal strike more likely. since the bb is pretty high you could probably get away with 650c wheels, but i wouldn't go lower or use long cranks.

bigger issue with fixed than ss, just thought i'd mention it.

slim_77

Ryand: I agree afterall it is a "group buy"..perhaps a seperate thread for this? Many may have already backed off and given up.

If we can get a nice even number like 10, I am sure it would be worth his while...I mean this thing is taking off (250+ deposits alreay or some crazy number!--a bunch in Road Cycling are ordering too.)

ryand

I just hope he doesn't feel like he is being taken advantage of. He is doing this because he knows we all suport his company and send him business, be it by way of the forum or word of mouth. If we can get 10 people that want a small frame, I will clal him and see if it is possible. If not, just get a 46cm Mark V as thanks for being so generous.

slim_77

right--thanks. It would be SS and 165mm for sure; but, I don't think the 650c wheels will take 2" off the standover. I hope Tony helps us out of this jam...

slim_77

I can appreciate your concern. He is doing a pretty cool thing for us...

--I doubt it. I mean, although I have no idea, even at this great deal I don't think he is doing it at a loss...and anyway people can't help their height.

ryand

I'm sure he isn't losing money, but he definately isn't making as much as he could be.

bonechilling

But he is gaining a pretty high volume of sales that he
likely wouldn't have had otherwise. If he gets 300
orders, and it looks like he's approaching that (if the
250 number is to be believed), then he's looking at
a sudden surge of $45,000 in capital. I have no idea
what his profit margins are like, but there is a lot to
be said by gaining in volume what you lose in margin.

He also puts 300 of his brand bikes into the hands of
people who are active in biking communites in their
towns all around the world and on the internet. IRO
seems like a company that has been built almost
entirely on word of mouth, so it sounds like a smart
business decision to me.

shingfunger

i think that number (250) refers to the amount of orders placed in 2007, but a good chunk of them are this frameset

610

I am coming into this WAY too late. However, if anyone was interested in putting together a group buy for Rob Roys and Tony's dealing, I'm in.

ryand

I think earlier today we were at 103. He is doing them in batches of 50 (I believe) and this is the third batch. The other two were 50 a piece for sure.

Anyways, I'm not saying that he is losing out on business or money, its definitely a good move. I just think he wasn't expecting 150 sales when this started (hell, I thought we'd be lucky to get 50) and I hope he doesn't feel like everybody is only buying them because they are $150. I think people outside of bikeforums are picking up on it, and I think some people might be buying in in order to flip it for profit. Which would be a very ****ty thing to do.

garagegirl

Start a new thread for this. If you're serious about this, there's has been some interest on this thread about rob roy's, but I think it would have to be a totally seperate deal. Perhaps we could start a new group rob roy buy. But I'm pretty sure they won't be $150.

riotboy

yeah ive seen this in two seperate places already.

ryand

Seen people flipping, or people talking about the frames?

riotboy

talking about the frames

freeskihp

yeah, that would be a bummer but I guess thats the nature of the beast

wearyourtruth

you tiny kids need to get in on that pedal car on the previous page that thing is awesome

OldLondonOnion

mm 59 blue

doofo

you like it threadless baby?