MAVIC ELLIPSE lockrings only ?true or false?
#1
JuNKie! bike junkie!
Thread Starter
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 1,559
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
MAVIC ELLIPSE lockrings only ?true or false?
can you only use mavic lockrings on mavic hubs or will a dura-ace or soma fit fine as well?
and while I have your attention are EAI cogs and or Phil cogs thicker than say a cycle pro or surly cog?
and while I have your attention are EAI cogs and or Phil cogs thicker than say a cycle pro or surly cog?
__________________
www.cranks505.com
www.cranks505.com
#3
Paste Taster
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Sacramento, CA
Posts: 4,392
Bikes: , Jury Bike, Moto Outcast 29, Spicer standard track frame and spicer custom steel sprint frame.
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
werd but the wheels are so nice who cares about the extra proprietary parts
#4
Banned.
Join Date: May 2006
Location: GTA
Posts: 210
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Originally Posted by Retem
werd but the wheels are so nice who cares about the extra proprietary parts
#5
blacksheep the blemish
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Portland/Greendale
Posts: 1,063
Bikes: 1973 Schwinn World Voyageur (manufactured by panasonic), Italvega Super Speciale (fixed, primary ride now), Kona 2004 JTS 10 spd
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
You could use a paul crankset in that case.
#6
NACCC 2007 Winner
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Copeland - Denmark
Posts: 135
Bikes: A Lot!
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
You got the lockring thing right. And they dont usually come with the wheels, its an extra order!?
#7
Paste Taster
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Sacramento, CA
Posts: 4,392
Bikes: , Jury Bike, Moto Outcast 29, Spicer standard track frame and spicer custom steel sprint frame.
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
no you are thinkin 44mm chainline on the paul comp stuffs
#8
JuNKie! bike junkie!
Thread Starter
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 1,559
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Originally Posted by Jumbo
You got the lockring thing right. And they dont usually come with the wheels, its an extra order!?
but I cant get the thing to butt up against the cog. the cog would spin back if I tried to skid or skip.
I put a 2mm spacer behind the cog and it seems to work but it seem that I might strip the threads if I try to tighten it all the way. I could still crank on the lockring but I'm scared. and I was wondering if A better Cog might be thicker?
has anyone had this issue?
__________________
www.cranks505.com
www.cranks505.com
#9
Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: St Paul, MN
Posts: 698
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
I use a 16t DA cog with the Mavic lockring on my Ellipses with no problems. I have the cog oriented so that the flanged side of the cog faces inward towards the hub. I can't recall off-hand what the chainline ends up being, but it's more than 42mm.
The Mavic website specifies a 33x1.0 french-threaded lockring (Mavic Part no. 32397101). Harris Cyclery sells them for $13.
The Mavic website specifies a 33x1.0 french-threaded lockring (Mavic Part no. 32397101). Harris Cyclery sells them for $13.
Last edited by lunacycle; 01-16-07 at 01:58 PM.
#10
NACCC 2007 Winner
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Copeland - Denmark
Posts: 135
Bikes: A Lot!
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Some of the cheap cogs are more narrow than DA, which could lead to the problem you describe, also the case if you ride miche hubs.
#11
Paste Taster
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Sacramento, CA
Posts: 4,392
Bikes: , Jury Bike, Moto Outcast 29, Spicer standard track frame and spicer custom steel sprint frame.
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
get a better quality cog phil wood eai
#12
JuNKie! bike junkie!
Thread Starter
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 1,559
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Originally Posted by sniks
it came with a lock ring.
but I cant get the thing to butt up against the cog. the cog would spin back if I tried to skid or skip.
I put a 2mm spacer behind the cog and it seems to work but it seem that I might strip the threads if I try to tighten it all the way. I could still crank on the lockring but I'm scared. and I was wondering if A better Cog might be thicker?
has anyone had this issue?
but I cant get the thing to butt up against the cog. the cog would spin back if I tried to skid or skip.
I put a 2mm spacer behind the cog and it seems to work but it seem that I might strip the threads if I try to tighten it all the way. I could still crank on the lockring but I'm scared. and I was wondering if A better Cog might be thicker?
has anyone had this issue?
trying to stop at a red light.
kinda scary.
glad I wasn't bombing a huge hill.
__________________
www.cranks505.com
www.cranks505.com
#14
JuNKie! bike junkie!
Thread Starter
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 1,559
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
#15
quoten fixer
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Seattle/Berlin
Posts: 208
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Originally Posted by sniks
does that mean if I put that 2mm spacer behind the cog willl it bring it to 42?
no i think if you put a 2mm spacer behind the cog the chainline is 46mm
#16
JuNKie! bike junkie!
Thread Starter
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 1,559
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Originally Posted by PHR3AK
no i think if you put a 2mm spacer behind the cog the chainline is 46mm
thanks.
__________________
www.cranks505.com
www.cranks505.com
#17
silly rabbit...
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: CT and Philly
Posts: 119
Bikes: 2006 CAAD 8 with si cranks and campy Veloce
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Originally Posted by Soil_Sampler
Mavic 33.0x1 mavic only
french standard
back in the day there were a ton of standards, swiss, french, english, italian, etc.
#18
car dodger
I put a soma lockring w/ eai cog on my mavic ellipses, no problems except the lockring thickness was greater than the one that came stock w/ the rush hour pro, it also had a washer. So, I didn't use a washer. Seems to work fine.
#19
JuNKie! bike junkie!
Thread Starter
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 1,559
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Originally Posted by norskagent
I put a soma lockring w/ eai cog on my mavic ellipses, no problems except the lockring thickness was greater than the one that came stock w/ the rush hour pro, it also had a washer. So, I didn't use a washer. Seems to work fine.
and that would be fine with me if I knew the lockring threads wouldn't strip right off under a hard skid like it did with the spacer. two day of riding them an they are already a little f##ked.
__________________
www.cranks505.com
www.cranks505.com
#20
not the car.
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Montreal, QC
Posts: 106
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 2 Times
in
1 Post
Originally Posted by sniks
F@@K the spacer was a bad idea just stripped off my lockring (threads off the hub).
trying to stop at a red light.
kinda scary.
glad I wasn't bombing a huge hill.
trying to stop at a red light.
kinda scary.
glad I wasn't bombing a huge hill.
BUMMER!
well, they'll still make OK dedicated track wheels.
#21
car dodger
If I take off the already tight soma lockring, that seems to be working fine, and replace it with the proper mavic lockring, will it fit right...or did I screw up the threads by tightening the soma onto the cog? Maybe I should just leave it be until I wear out the cog?
#22
JuNKie! bike junkie!
Thread Starter
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 1,559
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Originally Posted by norskagent
If I take off the already tight soma lockring, that seems to be working fine, and replace it with the proper mavic lockring, will it fit right...or did I screw up the threads by tightening the soma onto the cog? Maybe I should just leave it be until I wear out the cog?
you won't be able to put a mavic ring on that side. but you have two fixed side so your good.
__________________
www.cranks505.com
www.cranks505.com