Is anyone else ever offended when people that have never even seen a 'ghetto' (the use describing a economically downtrodden [sp?] area), use it to describe 'janky' or 'broke-down' or 'cheaply-made' stuff? I am.

BTW, I am not suggesting that this is the case with the OP. I'll leave you with NaughtybyNature to smooth it out:

"If you ain't ever been to the ghetto
Don't ever come to the ghetto
'Cause you ain't understand the ghetto
And stay the **** out of the ghetto
Why me?
(alright)"
-NaughtybyNature

no, not at all

I wonder if anyone ever gets offended when you assume that they have never seen a 'ghetto'

Smaller diameter bar (Example: 30 year old Schwinn drops) + thicker wrap (Example: an old tube) = more comfort for large hands.

For me, I get a wrap that doesn't soak up water, is free and meets my needs for winter riding (doesn't ice up and get slick).



As for your statement about the fenders:

Lemme get this, because you have a $350 bike, you should not fabricate a fender for your old bike? Whoa, bike Nazi?

IMO, do whatever you want, build whatever you want, have fun, and don't take **** from anyone.

i'm mostly just offended by ducks.

Me too, since I never have assumed that.

then your previous comment was irrelevant

you mean the one bemoaning the use of the word "ghetto" as an adjective, and then citing the lyrics of a song entitled "ghetto bastard?"

yea that's the one

Go easy on gyeswho guys, hes just doing his own thing in the usa and not hurting anyone. But Gyeswho my man, you will have to accept that normal people find your aesthetic hideous.

How do you figure that? If you read my original post, I clearly state that I was not suggesting that I thought the original poster had never seen a ghetto. I am just questioning the rhetoric that people seem to pick up somewhere and start using freely, without stopping to think that it could be hurtful to someone or make them appear ignorant. Another example: 'wifebeater' to describe a tanktop. I say 'wifebeater' all the time - I am not innocent, and I am not passing judgement on anyone else... I am just saying that 'ghetto' used (in the way described above) by people that have never been to a ghetto bothers me for some reason. I think it's wrong. I think it is wrong, but I can deal with it. Hopefully, you can deal with me having that opinion and not claiming my previous comment as irrelevant. Ride bikes... ride bikes in the ghetto... have fun!

All y'all are getting cabin fever. Go ride.

ha. that was fantastic.

yea i think youre right. this gross weather/snow/ice/slush/me falling into a puddle and getting soaked today has really gotten to me. let's just all be friends

Ha... hopefully (but I am sure, not) this is my last defense. I quoted Naughty by Nature to liven up the original post (by me). I'm not angry. I don't live in a ghetto. I don't even really like Naughty by Nature.

However, I am pretty sure that the members of Naughty by Nature have seen a ghetto, and they know what a ghetto is. I'll talk this over with them on our next group ride and get back to you all.

i think i know something about bein in the ghetto as i i did grow up in it for 12yrs in harlem. im not taking it personally i understand what you sayin. dont chop me for my style for the other talkers, this is what i do because im being me. im not trying to make a style, this is my style.

what yall others taking it literally for. i dont judge you or say you trying to be something if you like doing what everyone else does too. if u like it, i respect u for that because you sticking by your guns and not caring what others think of you. i dont care if yall think im being fake or tryin to make a style. i like doing things like this because it makes me happy. why yall always gotta ruin things with your negativity. yall part of the reason why these threads be so wack because yall the true trolls because you take things way off topic with your judgements and closed mindedness.

i hear what you saying as to make it pretty if you do it yourself but im not making things to be a prized showcase. its for function not aestetics. if i wanted to make the bike pretty id buy something for it but its my goal to make it nice for me not what others like (okay maybe a little).

you know you wrong to say something like (how would you like it if you had a daughter and someone told her she's a failure for looking a certain way or talking a diff way?) that and i respect your opinion but you need to stop actin hard over the net. i not trying to win a best post award or design a pop fad. i would like it if people participated in my posts without hate or judgement but there are always goin to be arrogant ppl like you who don't anything about creative. creativity isn't always beautiful, its in the eye of the beholder just like beauty. there are girls who you may think are totally hot i may say im not that attracted to her and vice versa. i wont shoot you down cuz you like that type of girl so why you hatin on me for? there are many that think DaVinci was a terrible artist while another group say opposite. you have you opinion, i have mine.

i know there are those on here who like to make things, pretty or not, that's why i put this up to see who else is out there. dont be such a square (this is for those who like to hate)

so what if i spelled something wrong. i dont know everything and i KNOW yall dont either so quit being so anal about things. i didn't see you on television for your infinite wisdom and knowledge. btw thank you for letting me know how this is spelled. i learned something new now.

i hope yall have a good day. i don't care if yall dont like what i did just show some respect like i do to you. i like what i did with my bike and that's all that matters.

try buying the stuff UL listed for ducts if thats what you are worrying about

ok thats all over with, we have determined that he did not mean YOU. But have you read all the other posts??

haha, yeah. i think the sarcasm picks up a tinge of nasty whilst travelling through the tubes of the interweb. no venom intended, and i love that song.

i can't wait to go ride around in the slush.

john, wanna have a slushy ride tonight? i don't wanna go to the black cat, but i'm down to go out and get beat up when i try to act like my bike was meant to ride through anything.

If he means me, how to you ASSUME that I am a male? I am, but still... that could be seen as offensive to somebody...:crash:

oh for crying out loud. let it go, really

sorry dude, don't think i'll have time. what with the intercourse.

maybe tomorrow if its still slushy.

read again i had to edit it