I do what I can.

I got an old cheap Fuji road frame that spins em good with a 700c front wheel

you're asking to be an *******. You're still tryin that same angle, its not working. If you were actually curious, you would go to somafab.com. What a troll

Yeah, I figured you didn't swap frames just for barspins, haha. Even if it were the only reason, it would just be an excuse that I haven't used to justify a purchase with yet. :D

But your bike does not have the geometry listed on somafab.com. I don't feel like doing the math now but since you care so much about getting "tighter geometry" I figured you could tell me what it was. I guess I was wrong and you are just another ******bag hipster that likes to talk about "tighter geometry" but really doesn't know **** about riding a bike other then the two or three boring tricks he does ad nauseum.

I guess it was too much to expect a ****up willing to put a new wheel on so that he could do barspins to think about what other implications that have. For that I am sorry.

...oh ****tt Dutret Getting Tolddddd

Actually...
http://chrisking.com/rollover/headcolors.html

They don't make purple anymore, I think. I saw a used one on ebay once, but it came and went when I had no money for it.

I was just being reactionary I guess. Whenever colored headsets are usually brought up, the answer is usually CK. :(

good god.. okay. Reasons for upgrading to the rush from the bowery for me were simple. I got the bike even though it wasnt exactly right for me because it was cheap. I had issues with pedal strike on the giant. I never really got comfortable with it and by going with a track frame, I wouldnt have to worry about it unless I was really really leaning (higher bottom bracket). With the Rush my positioning and posture is better. The steeper head tube combined with the 650 front put me forward over the bike more. I have short legs so going with a 53 would be better for standover, but not for reach. So I went with the 55. Stand over was sort of an issue at this point, but the 650 also helped in that area. The steeper seat tube is another plus for getting better posture. In the bowery I felt like I was riding farther back and more upright. The fork was something that could have been adapted to either frame, but I went from a 44 to a 38 rake. My goal was to get the best of both worlds. I like to ride and I like to do tricks. There were a few options available, I went with the Rush.

quit being such a hater. Why are you in this thread anyways? Just to talk ****? Id find your threads and come argue with you about **** youre doing if I felt like wasting my life away.

650 wheel with a 700 fork (with appropriate stem angle and height). geometry hardly changes.
sorry if it's already been said but i really can't be bothered to read the inevitable *****ing that will ensue with this question

In other words you can't answer my simple question: what is the geometry of the soma? I was curious whether if you have pushed it outside the bounds of normal bikes or not. Next time instead writing a ridiculous rant to justify your choices just answer the ****ing question or say "I don't know".

It should change about half as much as the change with the fork would. I think when I calculated that it was 4-5 degrees or something. That is a huge difference. Half that is still pretty big... like between a slack roadbike an a moderately steep track one.

Why do you keep asking me that? In the time it takes to type that **** you could have just gone to somafab.com yourself. Do you expect me to type all those dimensions out in a nice pretty chart for you?

i'm pretty sure it's not that much. when i used to ride dh/fr bikes the rule of thumb was that an inch on or off the fork length equated to approximately a degree slacker or steeper at the ht.

we're talking a very small difference between a 650 and a 700 wheel on the same fork. i can't see that causing a 2-3° difference in angle. not even close

i've ridden my 74°/74° conventional track bike with a 650 front wheel and it certainly didn't suddenly turn into an unrideable monster.

it's just not a big deal

Can you not ****ing read

Or are you just so ****ing clueless that you can't grasp the concept that dropping the front of the bike an inch changes the geometry even after you have been told that that is the case.

now youre reaching. Yes it changes a little. Its steeper if anything. Im bored with you. Thanks for your contribution you ****ing tool. Trying be some sort of halfassed purist elitist... snooze
If youre so interested, you do the math

55cm rush:
966mm wheelbase
74.3° headtube

Drop height from 700c to 650c:
[622 - 571]/2 = 25.5mm

Therefore the headtube angle delta is approx 1.5°, making the new headtube angle about 75.8°
Of course, this can be affected by tire size etc..

wow. simply wow. somebody needs to stop wearing panties that bunch so easily.

Here is a fantastic tip that will make your bikeforums experience much more enjoyable:

http://bikeforums.net/profile.php?do...ignore&u=31510

This just in... barspins are for the gays!

Haha.

dutret just likes to fight. you'd be better off to just ignore him. sometimes it's entertaining to read but it's pretty lame how every conversation he starts turns into him calling someone a "******bag hipster" or some other version of follower. my theory is everyone around his real life got sick of this long ago so he found bikeforums to vent his extreme know-it-all-ness to the world.

seriously, all bike opinions and arguments aside, what is your problem dutret? were you not loved enough as a child?

i always forget this exists. about to click...

while some people are busy complaining on the internet
people like ryand are riding

how to barspin:
http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/9203/img0542yn8.jpg

from this morning's farewell waffle breakfast ride
dc will miss this guy

more than four sahn
more than four

hey, my bike.

also he slammed the wheel into the crank arm on that one.

Always make sure the crankarms are at 6 and 12.

the crankarms were at 6 and 12, until i started the wheelie.
i didnt even know about this picture being posted until today when babychris told me.
i definitely slammed the wheel into my foot.

yer butts showing

barspins are fun, i will have another barspinning bike soon. im excited.