Is this pedal sytem so wrong?
 

So I just started riding in the velodrome. I use a [track pedal/clip/double strap/samba sneakers] setup which works reasonably well, but I notice most guys who are serious about track and don't give a sh*t about street riding use a clipless system alone or a clipless system in conjunction with straps/clips. I've been thinking a long time about what may work best and is economical. Will the following setup work?:

This pedal

http://www.nashbar.com/nashbar_photo.../SH-PDM324.gif

maybe modified to 'pistafy' them by sawing off the outsides for cornering clearance (edit: by outside, I don't mean the whole pedal cage but just the ends), with clips/straps installed mixed with a stiff road shoe that has the slots to take spd cleats.

Again, this is for 'drome use only. I just figured its more secure than using Look or SDP-SL alone, and less obscure or expensive than using that weird MKS positive release sytem.

Has anyone tried this or have any thoughts?

I would look at the SPD-SL or Looks systems.

Wait, what? clips and straps over these SPD's, or like install them on the other side for street riding and take them off for the track?

All possible options are completely jingus. If you're going to buy new pedals and shoes and all of that, just swap the pedals out for the track and keep your existing setup for street. Or do like most people and discover that clipless is great on the street too and just buy some walkable SPD shoes.

I have been, but I don't like the idea of them alone since there's a chance of coming out. I have seen guys attach straps to Looks and Shimanos however.

Don't do SPDs (what you pictured) fixed, the pedals tend to release at the worst times.

Clips and straps over the SPD. I've gone back and forth with clipless and clips/straps on the street, and it's about as pointless as a Campy vs. Shimano debate.

Tour de France winners have been on both Look and SPD-SLs. They are stronger than you.

There is a thread somewhere in the track forum about adding straps to an Ultegra SPD-SL. It is a much firmer attachment than the 2 bolt SPD cleat used in the pedal you posted.

The point is they would have cinched clips and straps over them.

dude, youd need the sides in order to use straps. if you want cornering clearance, higher bb and shorter cranks are the only thing you can do.

I wouldn't do it. Get a road pedal and cleat with some float if you're that worried about pulling out. Or go with the MKS cleat system.

I don't think I'm explaining myself

I basically want to create this:

http://www.businesscycles.com/graphi...d-mks_exa2.jpg

which people use on the track in conjunction with clips and straps, but not have to look for the obscure cleat or pay $100+ for a specialty track part.

that pedal system is so wrong its right.

Ok, maybe I'm ******** or something, but how would one disengage from a pedal with both clips and cleats? It just doesn't make sense in my feeble little mind.

I would guess you loosen the strap and then unclip.

You can't mount the clips so that they will allow you to strap in while on the spd side. Or, maybe its possible, but the stack height on the spd side is huge. your foot is way off the plane of the axle and you'd have to stretch the clip way out to fit your foot in. It would not be comfortable. Not to mention that if you crash, your foot will not come out, one of the major reasons people switched from clip and strap to clipless.
The only people at the track who regularly use anything but looks, spd-sl, or speedplay are sprinters. They have thighs approximately the size of your mom and do things like rip teeth off of cogs.
Thor Hushvod rides Looks and he is one of the best sprinter on the road. He is stronger than anyone on this forum and if he pulls out of the pedal its because either he did something wrong or the pedal is defective.

While trackstanding?

Don't they make just the opposite? I remember seeing a little platform thing that you could attach to clipless so you can ride them with street shoes/clips/straps.

Ok, I understand what the OP is trying to say and it pretty much sounds ********. Just get a regular pedal system and stop trying to come up with cockamamy schemes to keep your foot in. There is a reason (almost)everybody else uses regular setups, and it's because there isn't a need to make crazy combinations to try to keep one's foot in. might as well just use a ****load of duct tape.

just get some mtb shoes an a set of time atacs and get one with life I wear my mtb shoes all day long man no problem

This is the only intelligent thing anyone has said.

I agree with that.
I can only remember one occasion where someone accidentally unclipped during a TdF sprint (Zabel a few years back).

Once you setup your cleats correctly, it should be that easy to accidentally unclip.

Times @ 17 degree release are sprint worthy, never pull out

also, there are two kinds of regular SPDs, the black cleats and the silver cleats. the black cleats work very well, and don't pull out randomly. the silver cleats are garbage, they are actually designed to pull straight out of the grip, and always at the worst time.

Go with SPD-SLs... it is next to impossible to "accidentally" unclip with those, fixed gear or otherwise.

tell that to lance