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re: the original post.
most of us have at least a few we wish we could take back. |
Looking at trail/rake/angles on different bikes and comparing them to discuss handling makes my head hurt.
Too many variables. Just changing tire size changes two of the variables. http://www.kreuzotter.de/english/elenk.htm |
I don't know about "twitchiness," although I've heard the word used to describe track bikes on the street.
I know my Bianchi Pista feels stable at the highest speeds I can hit with it, probably well short of 30mph. My Pista also feels wonderful at very, very slow speeds. And then, at normal cruising speeds (19-20mph for me), it seems to pick its way through the road debris without any conscious effort on my part. I also note I can "throw" the front wheel sideways, although I know the wheel stays in contact with the road. All of this said, I would never think of taking my hands off my Pista's handlebars. Someone brought up weight distribution, or what I would call Center of Gravity. A bike has a center of gravity around the rolling or leaning axis, but it also has a center of gravity around the yaw, or turning axis. I have a 35mm setback seatpost, and this puts me further back over the rear wheel than most folks. I wonder how this changes things. |
Originally Posted by Ken Cox
I have a 35mm setback seatpost, and this puts me further back over the rear wheel than most folks.
I wonder how this changes things. FWIW, "ideal" front:rear weight distribution is usually around 45:55 or so. |
I find various track bikes and various touring bikes to be both difficult and easy to handle no-handed and at high and low speeds. I don't think there's one golden variable that makes one type of bike this or that way in certain situations. It seems like a skilled rider can do exactly what he or she wants if he or she knows how the bike might respond to very particular movements.
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Originally Posted by 12XU
I find various track bikes and various touring bikes to be both difficult and easy to handle no-handed and at high and low speeds. I don't think there's one golden variable that makes one type of bike this or that way in certain situations. It seems like a skilled rider can do exactly what he or she wants if he or she knows how the bike might respond to very particular movements.
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Yeah, it's all pretty fascinating, I really was interested to learn how headtube angle and rake interact. Especially how they affect steering quickness and stability which I am pretty sure are different.
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