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I know 3x deep Vs are strong but.....

Old 04-02-07, 08:38 PM
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I know 3x deep Vs are strong but.....

....would you trust them to do a 3 foot drop on them?

or whats the biggest drop you have taken on you deep V 3x?
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Old 04-02-07, 08:40 PM
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why are you asking? what kind of crazy **** are you trying to do?
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Old 04-02-07, 08:42 PM
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sure. i've done 3' drops to flat on my fixed conversion.. the rims are old 1980's 27" single wall jobbies..no problems..

yea..

but if you doing jumps/drops on a track bike, you will probably bend you frame or fork first... the frame and tubing is not built for those type of stresses or loads...

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Originally Posted by sniks
....would you trust them to do a 3 foot drop on them?

or whats the biggest drop you have taken on you deep V 3x?
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dunno but i've smashed into a lot of junk with them, and my fork got bent and my wheels are still rollin.
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Old 04-02-07, 08:48 PM
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approved thread.
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Old 04-02-07, 09:32 PM
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The frame will def break or crack first.
Even if you arent running deep Vs.
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Old 04-02-07, 09:37 PM
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Is this a growing market I could potentially tap into? Building track frames out of straight-gauge cromoly with huge wall-thicknesses and gussets at every joint? It'll be like the 700c BMX bike. Geometry that's friendly to bar-spins and leg-over skidding.

I could probably get $900.00 for a frameset, I just have to learn to TIG weld.
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Originally Posted by Igneous Faction
Is this a growing market I could potentially tap into? Building track frames out of straight-gauge cromoly with huge wall-thicknesses and gussets at every joint? It'll be like the 700c BMX bike. Geometry that's friendly to bar-spins and leg-over skidding.

I could probably get $900.00 for a frameset, I just have to learn to TIG weld.
It would be pretty damn heavy.
Anyway, track cranks are weak as hell really and wouldnt stand up to any sort of major hits. The wheels of course are nothing compared to a BMX wheel.
I guess you could run BMX cranks and engineer some 48 spoke 700c wheels. The latter would look very cool IMO.
Id be interested.
I personally cringe anytime i have to drop off of sidewalks on my Makino. Id be sick if it ever cracked.
Recently saw a Vivalo that the down tube cracked on.
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tandem wheels playa 48 spokes. thats it man, that what I will build ....beside this will settle the whole juvi / dutret thing about how strong a concept really is.






















this is not something I would do everyday, just wondering my limits. and I'm more concerned about flatspots than true.
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Originally Posted by deathhare
The wheels of course are nothing compared to a BMX wheel. I guess you could run BMX cranks and engineer some 48 spoke 700c wheels. The latter would look very cool IMO. Id be interested.
isn't that what aerospokes are for?
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(Tandem) Can you get those hubs thatll accept a cog? What are the rim choices out there?
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Old 04-02-07, 09:53 PM
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I think Phil will make just about any hole count if you want to wait 4 months
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I want to see a 48 spoke Phil/tandem rim set up.

Radial in the front, of course.
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get a bmx
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Phil hubs are lame IMO.
I got plenty of great BMX hubs in 48 hole but they wont hold a lockring
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Look, whatever man. I just want to see a track bike that looks comparable to this:
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dats alot more than 48
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Originally Posted by Retem
get a bmx

wow!

that took longer than I thought and I have two and a dirt jumper.
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get 36h salsa delgados they are 29er rims lace em 3x to what ever hub tie and solder and drop away put some fatter rubber on the thing before this all too
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I've seen someone take a 3' drop on a pista with deep Vs and no problems with either the rim or frame.
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Ach, ze CrossCheck iss nearly ready...
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Originally Posted by sivat
I've seen someone take a 3' drop on a pista with deep Vs and no problems with either the rim or frame.
Was that 'someone' 90 lbs soaking wet?
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yeah I have taken of two stair sets on my old windsor with deep v's and I never bent the frame/fork or ****ed up the wheels (outside of throwing them off true a bit) but I am about 115 at my heaviest.
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yeah i am 220
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You'd wanna be really light and/or landing on a decent transition imo. No way would I trust it at my weight (around 90KG). Unless you've got money to burn or just don't give a f**k.
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