Small footed toe overlap problem
 

So as you aware-types know, I just got a 2005 Bianchi Pista. I'm running with pedals and clips right now and keep nearly tossing myself over the bars when my toe hits the front wheel. My shoe size is only a 9 and I'm trying to figure out where I can find "stubbier" clips that will push my foot back more -- or am I overlooking a more obvious solution here? (other than the fact that this issue might just be something I have to get used to)

yeah, you are missing the obvious problem; don't let your toe hit your wheel. you just have to get used to it, cause you're not gonna want to get those half toe clips.

I'm trying to figure out how to make that work since I have very little control of where the pedals are since I'm all fixed up and typically when I'm turning I'm doing so because I'm avoiding something or have to turn -- very little time to plan ahead. Maybe I'll get used to it *shrug*

What size clips are you running?

Lean the bike at high speeds, don't turn the wheel. Slow speeds, only make turns where the wheel either stays either inside or outside your pedal stroke.

The end.

I'm not sure, they are sh*** ones that came off my old mountain bike:
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n...p/openClip.jpg
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n...shoeInClip.jpg

How slow are you turning when your hitting, I have toe overlap and I never strike when riding at any reasonable speed.

Welcome to track geometry. All track bikes have toe overlap. Your question has been answered.

It really only happens when I'm coming out of a stand or something.

Ok. Thanks all.

Be careful. Be conscious of the toe overlap, and you will get used to it. Also, ive heard the getting an eggbeater system will help a little. Somewhat expensive though.

Skips are good for getting your toes out of overlap position.

I do a variation of a fishtail skid where I wiggle the rear into a weird turn like that if you get small clips you are going to have a bad foot position you shoudl probably get out and ride more and work on your technique eventually you will find yourself not needing to slow or turn the bars lean mayn

clipless is the jam for efficiency control safety and it also reduces if not eliminates overlap however eggbeaters suck atacs are much better and if you get a cheap shoe it will be just as bad as riding in clips and straps

How long are your cranks? That affects things of course.
On track geometry i dont think clipless will solve the issue. It wouldnt on my frame, i know that.
Ive never had a problem with my overlap. I subconciously deal with it. Youll get used to it. If you cant...get something with ugly slack geometry, like an IRO maybe.

You could also look into foot binding. :) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foot_binding

going to clipless got rid of the overlap on both of my track bikes but only by a mm or two

I have lots of toverlap on my track frame with clips and none with clipless. It depends a lot on frame size, its harder to avoid as frames get smaller.

Toverlap is almost inveitable with clips. Looks like you could definitely run a smaller cage than whats on there right now. MKS make nice cheap toeclips that come in a bunch of sizes and are available from most LBSs that deal with track stuff, old roadies or from 100s of places on line.
http://www.jensonusa.com/store/produ...+Toeclips.aspx

The other more expensive option is to change for shorter cranks, if you're running a longish crank. That will also help.