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tonym 05-22-07 01:18 PM

hand-cuff lock!
 
havnt seen these anywhere before
http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s13/57tony/cuff.jpg
http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s13/57tony/cuf.jpg
• Ratchet cuffs provide snug, secure fit no room for jacks and bars
• 76mm diameter cuffs allow locking to forks, frames, signposts and parking meters
• Pivoting Link prevents a fixed anchor point, taking away the use of leverage to defeat them.
• Hardened laminated steel construction with hardened pivot links for optimum cut & pry resistance
• Compact and Easy to Carry - fold in half to fit in a seat bag, backpack or pocket
• 10-pin Tubular Cylinder - pick and drill resistant and easy to use.
• 54mm long for convenient locking
• Lifetime Guarantee

looks pretty cool but dont know if id trust it
it'd be handy as an extra wheel to downtube lock

mattface 05-22-07 01:26 PM

They are expensive, heavy, and vulnerable to the bic pen defeat.

But I still think they are pretty cool.

tbrtbx 05-22-07 01:28 PM

nice idea, i think the link can be cut with bolt cutters quite easily though.

andypants 05-22-07 01:30 PM

houdini theft.

mander 05-22-07 01:34 PM

I wonder if the links can be defeated with a chain tool.

mattface 05-22-07 01:42 PM


Originally Posted by mander
I wonder if the links can be defeated with a chain tool.

No you gotta get a sense of scale. those things are huge. The cuffs are designed to go around a parking meter post, and the links are more like a motorcycle chain than a bike chain.

Retem 05-22-07 02:03 PM

I have seen them popped apart with a big screw driver they changed the key so bic doesn't work any more
if you are gunna spend the money get two mini u locks or a nyc chain and an american padlock

diaper eater 05-22-07 02:03 PM

you can twist em and snap them with the leverage of the bike

megatron 05-22-07 02:06 PM

s&m.

In Absentia 05-22-07 02:17 PM

I saw a bike locked up with those a few days ago. Well, I saw a frame locked up with them. Everything else was stripped. The only things left were the headset and bottom bracket.

Aeroplane 05-22-07 02:52 PM


Originally Posted by In Absentia
I saw a bike locked up with those a few days ago. Well, I saw a frame locked up with them. Everything else was stripped. The only things left were the headset and bottom bracket.

Free headset and bottom bracket!

skinnyland 05-22-07 03:52 PM

I'm allergic to those.

oneredstar 05-22-07 04:32 PM

I have had one for about 4 years now. Lock my bike up all over the place and never had any issues. I was worried about the bic pen thing too, but the company says it is not vulnerable. I am sure there are ways to defeat it, but so far it has been the most successful lock I have used.

Raiyn 05-22-07 04:57 PM


Originally Posted by tonym
havnt seen these anywhere before
http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s13/57tony/cuff.jpg
http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s13/57tony/cuf.jpg
• Ratchet cuffs provide snug, secure fit no room for jacks and bars
• 76mm diameter cuffs allow locking to forks, frames, signposts and parking meters
• Pivoting Link prevents a fixed anchor point, taking away the use of leverage to defeat them.
• Hardened laminated steel construction with hardened pivot links for optimum cut & pry resistance
• Compact and Easy to Carry - fold in half to fit in a seat bag, backpack or pocket
• 10-pin Tubular Cylinder - pick and drill resistant and easy to use.
• 54mm long for convenient locking
• Lifetime Guarantee

looks pretty cool but dont know if id trust it
it'd be handy as an extra wheel to downtube lock

They're crap. Easy to break, easy to pick and the company won't acknowledge that they suck.

Originally Posted by oneredstar
I was worried about the bic pen thing too, but the company says it is not vulnerable.

Of course they're going to say that. I for one will never buy another product for that half assed good for nothing ****box of a company as long as I live. Check out my experiences with Crapster Crock

SSSasky 05-22-07 05:33 PM

I have the black ones, but don't use them anymore. I don't know if I buy the 'break them with leverage from the frame'. These things are burly. I think you're bike tube would crimp before they'd break. However, the tubular lock thing kills it for me, as does master locks response to the issue ("there's no problem...").

Also, the keys are a super soft brass (or were when I got mine). I wore through both keys in one year of medium use. ML will replace them for free, but it's a PITA.

In the end, I found them only marginally more convenient than a chainlock. I'm way way way happier with my onguard pitbull mini-u.

veggiemafia 05-22-07 08:48 PM

When I was shopping for new locks, these came up and got very, very poor reviews on multiple websites. I'm also in the "get 2 mini-u locks camp." I couldn't be happier with my 2 OnGuard Pitbull Minis.

oneredstar 05-22-07 08:56 PM


Originally Posted by Raiyn
They're crap. Easy to break, easy to pick and the company won't acknowledge that they suck.

Of course they're going to say that. I for one will never buy another product for that half assed good for nothing ****box of a company as long as I live. Check out my experiences with Crapster Crock

I went and read through your experience with Master Lock. Sounds like the customer service really sucks. Would have been nice if someone would have actually posted a video of it being defeated. I have had 2 kryptonite locks (non-barrel key) defeated. And as I said I have never had my cuff lock defeated. I hope it never happens and I will probably end up getting a new lock later this year, but so far so good, and I consider 4 years pretty good in my city.

BuddyMike 05-22-07 10:52 PM

My friend has a pair. I never liked them because they limit your locking option. They are only good for shananigans.

LóFarkas 05-23-07 12:53 AM

Look, those circular key locks are easy to pick. All of them.

Since you asked, here's a crappy webcam vid of me picking my own MasterLock U pretty briskly:
http://cyrex.axio.hu/bb/video/masterlock.wmv

pfe 05-23-07 05:32 AM

There is a guy by me who has one that has a taser that inserts into the lock area so anyone trying to pick it gets electrocuted...kind of cool.

LóFarkas 05-23-07 06:32 AM

Kind of illegal as well, and kind of dangerous for curious children, don't you think?

Devolution 05-23-07 07:08 AM


Originally Posted by diaper eater
you can twist em and snap them with the leverage of the bike

To the doubters...

I've broken a set of these in the name of product testing. Scary easy to break the center chain links. Imagine bending a bicycle chain the wrong way, against the links.

wroomwroomoops 05-23-07 07:37 AM


Originally Posted by Raiyn
They're crap. Easy to break, easy to pick and the company won't acknowledge that they suck.

Of course they're going to say that. I for one will never buy another product for that half assed good for nothing ****box of a company as long as I live. Check out my experiences with Crapster Crock

Thanks a LOT for that link, and your effort to right MasterLock's wrongs. I learned a lot reading that thread.

mattface 05-23-07 09:54 AM

WOW. that thread is 3 years old, and they are still selling those??? Weird.

andypants 05-23-07 10:37 AM

Keep a spare key in your butt, just in case.

drgumbi 05-23-07 05:19 PM

I had/have a pair of these cuffs... useless on the street, only moderately good in the bedroom. Has anyone ever used this thing quickly? It's a pain to get a qr wheel and requires 2 uses of the key, not one. Get a u lock and a clue...

Raiyn 05-23-07 05:39 PM


Originally Posted by oneredstar
I went and read through your experience with Master Lock. Sounds like the customer service really sucks.

Like you wouldn't believe. I was communicating with Kryptonite at the same time and they treated me SO much better. This was at the height of the problem. They actually got EXTRA people to man the phones.

Originally Posted by oneredstar
And as I said I have never had my cuff lock defeated. I hope it never happens and I will probably end up getting a new lock later this year, but so far so good, and I consider 4 years pretty good in my city.

The ONLY thing the Cuffs have going for them is a slight intimidation factor due to the shape. (Crooks hate the look of handcuffs):rolleyes:

Originally Posted by wroomwroomoops
Thanks a LOT for that link, and your effort to right MasterLock's wrongs. I learned a lot reading that thread.

That's the reason I posted it back then, and brought it up now.

Originally Posted by mattface
WOW. that thread is 3 years old, and they are still selling those??? Weird.

Having read what I went through you're surprised? They wouldn't admit it was an issue back then, why should they deviate from the party line now?
Plus if the lock was opened you can't prove that you didn't leave it unlocked, or that it wasn't opened with a key thereby removing them from having to honor the warranty.
Back when I posted that thread the links vulnerability wasn't known (at least not widely), but it just goes to add to the craptastic nature of these locks. I still use mine, however only on my equally craptastic, and rarely used, Huffy beater, and to secure the cable on the trunk rack when we go somewhere with the good bikes.

calculus 05-24-07 04:57 PM

THEY SUCK
i have one,

Aldone 05-25-07 01:01 AM

seems that they easilly snaps at the chain links

alanbikehouston 05-27-07 11:55 AM

Tests by "Bicycling" and "Cycling Plus" have shown that Master locks, at any price range, are junk. They can be opened in a couple of seconds. Why do people buy locks that fail test after test? A real mystery.

The May 2007 "Cycling Plus" has their latest test results, which are consistent with the test results at "Soldsecure.com". Those tests consistently show that the best u-locks from Kryptonite match up well against the best locks from Europe's best lock supplier, Abus.

The "best" u-locks that are easy to find in the USA are the Kryptonite New York u-lock and the Kryptonite Fahgettaboudit u-locks.

Such heavy duty (and just plain heavy) u-locks may be more than folks need who live in "Friendly Village" and who are locking up a $300 or $400 bike. For low-risk situations, the light weight mini u-locks, such as the OnGuard Bulldog, the OnGuard Mini TC, and the Kryptonite 2000 mini u-lock are a good balance of light weight, portability, and a reasonable level of security.

To see soldsecure's test results, go to:

www.soldsecure.com/Leisure.htm

And, consider going to Barnes & Nobles or Borders Books and picking up a copy of the May issue of "Cycling Plus" with their latest lock test results. Every issue is well worth the USA price of $8 a copy...a terrific cycling magazine.


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