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Track Bike Touring

Old 05-30-07, 03:23 PM
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Track Bike Touring

Stupid Idea? What's the furthest you've ridden a track bike? Wished you had more gears?

You can tell me.
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I towed a BOB trailer up Vancouver Island on 40/16, it wasn't too bad.
The only time it sucked was on the long descents.

Currently my friend is riding his KHS flite 100 to Mexico, but its a supported tour, so he's not carrying much.
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Old 05-30-07, 03:31 PM
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What about a double sided hub. E.g, 16t fixed, 18t freewheel? Or whatever.
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The geometry would bother me more than the lack of gears I think.
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I rode Skyline Drive last weekend (Front Royal to Big Meadows and back)--102 miles, 10,000+ feet of climbing on my KHS flite 100. It has a 48 chain ring and an 18 tooth cog. The climbs weren't too bad...the downhills, on the other hand, were really tough--so much that I have (gasp) installed a second brake on the bike for an extended ride I am taking in 2 1/2 weeks-- Ride the Rockies!

I have only one cog, and no desire to 'flip' to a freewheel.

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Originally Posted by barba
The geometry would bother me more than the lack of gears I think.
exactly, comparable the running a marathon in these
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I rode my Bareknuckle 126 miles a few weeks ago with 49x17=~76 gear inches. It wasn't really much harder than doing the same ride on my road bike, except for the increased saddle time due to not being able to stand and coast. My ass was in pain but the rest of me was fine. A brooks saddle would have been nice.
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Bareknuckle huh. If it all works out, I think i'm going ta hav to get really comfortable handlebars/grips/gloves, due to more weight being placed further forwards.

anyway, thanks!!
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I made it 77.7 miles on my pista. My ass is what bothered me the most but I was slowing down very fast.
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I wouldn't ride my street track bike for very long distances, but I ride my Steamroller on century and double century rides.
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Originally Posted by tbrtbx
Stupid Idea? What's the furthest you've ridden a track bike? Wished you had more gears?

You can tell me.
double century. sometimes i wished i had more gears or ability to coast. the thing with riding fixed on a tour is that you can forget drafting or riding with a pack. it's just setting your pace and keeping it, damn the rest of them. if you want to draft off and ride with the faster pack, too bad--you need to go to a bigger gear for that. want to slow down and chat with the slower riders who are hanging back and enjoying the scenery and some conversation? you'll find it really annoying if you can't just coast whenever they do and half to backpedal to slow to their speed--you could be using that energy to go forward.

if you're doing it by yourself, though, why not? if you've got a fixed bike and want to see the country, **** the naysayers. go for it! touring isn't a race...it's just pedaling and getting from a to b on what you have and enjoying the trip, right?
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Originally Posted by mihlbach
I rode my Bareknuckle 126 miles a few weeks ago with 49x17=~76 gear inches. It wasn't really much harder than doing the same ride on my road bike, except for the increased saddle time due to not being able to stand and coast. My ass was in pain but the rest of me was fine. A brooks saddle would have been nice.

oh, yeah. that, too. not as good on your ass.
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Just did a metric century in and around Salisbury MD for the American Cancer society. Rode a 75 gear inch drivetrain on the Waterford with clinchers (didn't know the quality of the roads before hand to risk flatting on my sew-ups).
I agree about wishing for my Brooks off my FG conversion; either that or some hills for off the saddle butt rest.
I could see doing a regular century but no doubles for me yet.
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Originally Posted by buelito
I rode Skyline Drive last weekend (Front Royal to Big Meadows and back)--102 miles, 10,000+ feet of climbing on my KHS flite 100. It has a 48 chain ring and an 18 tooth cog. The climbs weren't too bad...the downhills, on the other hand, were really tough--so much that I have (gasp) installed a second brake on the bike for an extended ride I am taking in 2 1/2 weeks-- Ride the Rockies!

I have only one cog, and no desire to 'flip' to a freewheel.

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Which Flite 100 frame do you have and how did you route the rear brake cable. I waffle every other day about putting a rear brake on mine. I have an old set of Shimano top tube cable brackets that don't fit on the oversized tubing. I figure I could use zip ties to make up for the gap. That, or just use the zip ties as the cable guides.
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Yeah, I just turned my old and unused 1993 Litespeed Classic frame into a fixed gear and kept both brakes as I will be using this bike for long distances and having two brakes make very long descents at least a bit enjoyable.
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i don't understand why you'd want to tour on a track bike when using gears and a freewheel on a bike w/o the steep angles would make the experience so much more enjoyable.

"having two brakes make very long descents at least a bit enjoyable." case in point. wouldn't you rather just bomb the descents? i mean, isn't that more fun? then they're incredibly enjoyable.
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Originally Posted by bklyn74
"having two brakes make very long descents at least a bit enjoyable." case in point. wouldn't you rather just bomb the descents? i mean, isn't that more fun? then they're incredibly enjoyable.
Yeah, sure....I can always do that on my geared bike, anytime I want.

There is also a coolness factor involved when doing these rides with a fixed gear. I also earn extra credits from my peers when doing long hilly rides, fixed.
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Originally Posted by tbrtbx
Bareknuckle huh. If it all works out, I think i'm going ta hav to get really comfortable handlebars/grips/gloves, due to more weight being placed further forwards.

anyway, thanks!!
For long rides like that, I take off my track bars and install regular roadie drop bars and my arms and hands do fine over long distances even without hoods. I wouldn't even bother trying a fixed century or longer with track drops or other "hipster" type bars (risers, bullhorns, etc.) that offer limited and/or akward hand positions. Also, if you normally run your bars low, raise your stem a little or, if threadless, flip it so it has some positive rise..that helps a lot for long rides.

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Originally Posted by roadfix
Yeah, sure....I can always do that on my geared bike, anytime I want.

There is also a coolness factor involved when doing these rides with a fixed gear. I also earn extra credits from my peers when doing long hilly rides, fixed.

Or, if your riding partners are slower than you, a fixed gear is a good way to make it a little more challenging for yourself.
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Originally Posted by mihlbach
For long rides like that, I take off my track bars and install regular roadie drop bars and my arms and hands do fine over long distances even without hoods. I wouldn't even bother trying a fixed century or longer with track drops or other "hipster" type bars (risers, bullhorns, etc.) that offer limited and/or akward hand positions. Also, if you normally run your bars low, raise your stem a little or, if threadless, flip it so it has some positive rise..that helps a lot for long rides.
I've done double metric centuries on bullhorns and they were quite comfy. They offer all the positions of road bars minus the drops. Actually, I find them more comfortable than road bars with brake levers since you can really grip the ends of the bullhorns which you can't really do on the hoods of road bars.
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I rode my fixed gear 80 miles with a backpack of supplies. My penis was numb for a day and a half after not being able to stand up and coast. Never again...

Just made the same trip on Memorial Day on the new road bike; Full penile sensitivity retained!!!
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Hockey, wang issues don't come from long hours in the saddle they come from long hours in an ill fitting saddle. Last month I did a 225km fixed ride and was still pretty functional at the end. If everything fits right and you are strong you can go all day. Go check out the LD forum, they are utterly obsessive about ergonomics on account of having to go 400, 800 and even 1200 kms at a go.
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I've done some light touring on the track bike. For any long ride, having panniers is far superior to riding with a backpack or messenger bag, though i've done that as well. Here, i'm running with the small orleibs on the tubus fly rack.

With the very short rear end, having all that weight hanging right over the back axle makes the bike a bit sketchy on fast descents. I'm considering mounting a front rack or big handlebar bag to plant the front wheel a bit more.
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I rode my fixie 90 miles at one time. No problems, but I wouldn't want to ride more than that in one sitting. I was on a double century and saw a dude on a fixie once. I was on a geared bike and my hat was off to the guy.

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A buddy of mine rode from London to Riga fixed. Said he had a blast.
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