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Allen key skewers?

Old 05-30-07, 04:02 PM
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Allen key skewers?

My lady friend just bought a set of skewers for her road bike that look more or less like QR but are tightened by an allen key. I thought that this would be nice to use on my back wheel so i could adjust the chain tension on the road without bringing a full set of wrenches around with me- but i wasn't sure if it would work since the skewer only allen-keys on one side; kind of like a qr, and it might not give the proper tension or adjustability needed for a fixie.

Has anyone tried this? is there something like this with allen keys on both sides?
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Old 05-30-07, 07:54 PM
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I use allen head skewers on a recumbent, a hybrid and a singlespeed hybrid (freewheel). They can be tightened about as much as a QR. The skewer is the same diameter as a QR skewer. Might not be adequate for a fixed. Would think a bolt-on hub would be more appropriate.
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Old 05-30-07, 08:00 PM
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There are allen key track bolts out there...
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I'm not sure if they could handle being tightened as much as is needed on a FG. I've broken them before on my geared bike just by making sure the wheel was on tight. Cheap ones (under $30) are less likely to hold up to the abuse.

Phils and the like use allen bolts, but they are much thicker than replacment skewers.
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Old 05-30-07, 08:47 PM
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Yeah, I had some of these on my conversion, and you cant get the rear on tight enough to work properly. It kept slipping forward, but this was because I was running the full cassette on the back, and the chain kept jumping to the next highest gear, pulling the rear wheel forward with it. Bent the axle after a couple of times doing this. For the front I guess they are okay. There are cheaper ones and better ones, make sure to get some that you can check out first, in person, I think OnGuard makes some beefy ones, but you need hollow axles for them, and I havent ever seen a track bike with QR hollow axles on it! =P''

Well, I take that back, my el-cheapo rear fixie wheel on my Univega has a hollow rear axle, but its longer like a track axle and has nuts!
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Old 05-30-07, 08:49 PM
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I would say that it depends on your dropouts. if they are soft, then go for it. If not, then stick to track nuts.
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Old 05-30-07, 09:23 PM
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Phil hubs use allen key bolts i b'lieve.
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only problem with most of those allen skewers i've seen is the nuts are all aluminum.. they are soft and might not grip the dropouts too well.. probably also why they break when overtightened

you probably wants nice steel teeth to dig into your frok ends for max gription
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unless its a suicide hub, good luck finding a stock track rear hub that has a hollow axle that will accept any skewer.
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Another ****ty thing about using allen key skewers, is that you cannot 'walk' the wheel to tension it, as both sides loosen at once. I'd just convert the hub to solid axle and use track nuts.
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my pauls have allen nuts, but yeah, i'd steer clear of anything like that qr setup for a fixed rear wheel.
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They're more than fine on a suicide hub with a hollow axle, better than a quick release anyway (which also works fine as long as you check it once and awhile). If you already have a solid axle then I would not recommend switching to these.

Be careful tightening them down, I've broken two in the last year. (Which is hilarious because they shoot out of the axle and fly across the room because of the tension).
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go for it on the front, but no way for the back. i've seen many broken ones around campus by overtightening, he-man, drunken college kids. also, the pair at my lbs has a disclaimer stating they are for vertical dropouts only.
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