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first fixed-gear...no wheels!

Old 05-30-07, 09:07 PM
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first fixed-gear...no wheels!

having been an offroad ss'er for a couple years now, i find myself *totally* hooked. which is to say, i finally convinced myself to get over the 'it's just fashion' hurdle i placed between myself and a proper road fixie (i did ride one 15+ years ago as part of my road racing training regimen).

so, it arrived today. a used but nearly immaculate jamis sputnik, with a custom blend of componentry (i.e.: frameset + shop employee's parts box). everything necessary, save the wheels, and i'm looking for recommendations...

this will be a road rider, not commuter and certainly not velodrome. i'm ~170lbs and a fair weather rider (which is to say, 5+ days a week in sunny NC). i don't want to spend a fortune, but nor do i want to hang ghetto wheels on a suburbs kind of bike. single-sided or flip-flop...i care not. 100/120 spacing.

formula/iro/surly + velocity v seems to be the popular combo. yes, i understand that formula hubs are actually quite reasonable, but is this really a $250 wheelset? i'd much prefer used and interesting to new and formulaic (groan). where is the middle ground between formula and phil? on the rim side, i don't care if they're deep-v style or not. how are the DT 1.1's? i've got a couple sets of open 4's that i love, so maybe the open pro deserves a look?

anybody got anything used that i should know about? they'll go to a good home, i promise.

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You really can't go wrong with mavic, either open pros or cxp33's. i wouldn't spring for the cd ones though.
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i've been a fan of open pros laced to fix/fix phil hubs. kind of spendy and heavy, but have lasted me through 2 frames now... (went with ghetto frame and bling wheels starting off)

maybe formulas and phil bearings? or surly + phil bearings?
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If you upgrade the bearings in any entry level hub (formula, surly, dimension, etc) there's really no difference than phils, other than looks. Phils and other high end hubs are offered in more configurations (48h fix/fix hub anyone?) than formulas, so I don't know if that plays into your decision.
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Originally Posted by BostonFixed
If you upgrade the bearings in any entry level hub (formula, surly, dimension, etc) there's really no difference than phils, other than looks.
I bet this is more or less right but how is it wrong? There have to be some differences right? Tougher flanges? Better threading?

dookie if less dullness is all you're after, you can always get an entry level hub that's anodized, like the ano'd formulas from ben's bikes.

http://www.benscycle.net/index.php?m...roducts_id=624

My pal lyle built up a rather nice wheelset based on rootbeer coloured hubs from Ben's and black deep vs.

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Originally Posted by mander
I bet this is more or less right but how is it wrong? There have to be some differences right? Tougher flanges? Better threading?
Arguable..but when was the last time you heard of flanges breaking, apart from people running the silly c-record hubs on the street?
And hubs strip because people don't know how to install a cog correctly, or use ****ty cogs and lockrings.
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Well, I have no idea about using the enrtry-level hubs, was just thowing an idea out there... I'm happy with my wheels. More than should be legally allowed, I would venture.

I've heard others say that replacing the bearings on lower-end hubs makes a world of difference. I'll defer, but would love to get clarification on that -- it might actually be a way I go with building up a beater-bike.
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Originally Posted by mander
I bet this is more or less right but how is it wrong? There have to be some differences right? Tougher flanges? Better threading?
Phils and Pauls have ridiculous warrantys and service. Plus allen bolts instead of 15mm.
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Formula and Dimension are both fine durable hubs. Tje crummy ones are Suzue basic or junior, and Sovos. Other nice sub-phil hubs include Miche, Surly, and Suzue Promax if you can find them (not made any more) are my favorite in this price range.
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Are Milwaukee Bicycle Co. *4 Star Hubs* any good?

who makes the best <$100 hubset?
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the 4 star hubs are rebadged Dimension/Nashbar/whatever. they are fine, Durable, and work well, but apart from the $30 anodizing job are nothing special.
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