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Old 06-03-08, 03:18 PM
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i'm putting a ton of torque on them. that's not it.

and it's not really a key it's one of these things:

it's just not the park one. believe me there is plenty of torque provided.

i just got a un53 107 bb so i think that will be better. these cranks look IDENTICAL to the alien and a 107 is what FGG / alien used on those for their review. i'm just hoping the JIS shimano tapers work with the kazane. there's basically no technical information available about these damn things.

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cue argument over torque and multi-tools. I think you're going to be just fine (or close enough) with a 107.
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cans of worms everywhere i go man. every turn.
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uhh. you know that Shimano 110 and 107 mm BBs have the same drive side spindle length, right?
Going from 110 to 107 won't do anything.
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Originally Posted by peabodypride View Post
You know, this might seem weird but you could hacksaw off some of the spindle and file to see what size works, but obviously you'd need a new BB immediately.
i don't think this would work. the taper wouldn't change. there would only be less threads to tighten into.

also, i'm taking pictures of my white kilo for the track right now. post in a bit.
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Old 06-03-08, 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by baxtefer View Post
uhh. you know that Shimano 110 and 107 mm BBs have the same drive side spindle length, right?
Going from 110 to 107 won't do anything.
like most, i didn't know this until i read it.

hopefully, the 110.5 (which is a VB, not a shimano) will be longer than this one and this one will work.

no one has 103s though so i'll measure this next to the vb and if i can't tell that the taper is shorter driveside i'll try it and if it's a bust i'll return it and get the one worthwhile LBS around here to order me a 103.


i installed it. it's increadibly irksome. i dunno. it seems like it's straighter, and it seems like it spins better with less resistance, but i think that's just because the bearings are so much smoother on the new bb. maybe i just screwed the bolts in tighter and pushed them onto the tapers more. i dunno. when i measured them, the drive side was the same, so between 107 and 110.5 the 110.5 is better, it's more even between the two sides.

maybe 103 would be too small.

i measured the chainline and i put it at 44mm with the 107 shimano un53.

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Old 06-03-08, 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by dookski View Post
i don't think this would work. the taper wouldn't change. there would only be less threads to tighten into.

also, i'm taking pictures of my white kilo for the track right now. post in a bit.
Good point, didn't think of that.
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Old 06-03-08, 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Eric Hanus View Post
i reallly dig that bike. post some more pictures if you have them.
for eric. and me.






this photo is of a grease stain from headset install. is this just a by-product of having a white bike? anyone else have this problem?

57 white kilo
165mm sugino 75s
MKS pedals w/some whatever straps
steel nitto track bar, forgot which one, 40cm
3ttt 120 mm stem
bontrager race lite front hub 20h radial to velocity aerohead
formula rear 36h to velocity deep v
san marco rolls "no slip/racing pro" stitching
51-17, a 16 w/o lockring on the free side for track

this was going to be a commuter/beater, and then i visited kissena and got excited about that. it's built primarily for track, but for weekend rides too. i have a super beater for commuting. everything used or nearly new ebay steals except for the bars and grips.
i might try a slightly shorter stem. on the road, i feel like i'm reaching. on the track, it feels right, so maybe not... the bars could be rotated up a tiny notch too. i'd like to build a new wheelset, something 17-15 fixed/fixed and add a couple chainrings in the bag once i have a better feel for racing/training. if this summer is as fun as i think it will be, i'll probably upgrade to a better frame and make this the new commuter. it feels a little soft sprinting. overall, i'm very happy with it and it's been fun to build up. i even got up early the first weekend and did a bunch of fancy skids i used to do with the bike kids in college. ha.
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Old 06-03-08, 07:11 PM
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Great build, love the weathered look. I've gotten orange stains on my white track pro and rolls saddle, but they weren't permanent?
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Originally Posted by cc700 View Post
i'm putting a ton of torque on them. that's not it.

and it's not really a key it's one of these things:

it's just not the park one. believe me there is plenty of torque provided.
I thought you mean like an allen key, not those. They should be fine then!
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Old 06-03-08, 10:51 PM
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ok, i read through all 122 pages, but still have to ask for my own sanity:
i'm 6' with a 34" inseam. to err on the safe side, I should be purchasing a 57?

thanks in advanced,
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Old 06-03-08, 11:12 PM
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yes, with a longer stem and seatpost you'll be fine.
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Old 06-04-08, 12:58 AM
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i <3 this thread
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nice sugino 75s, and the nittos look like b123's because the drop is huge when you look at that stem, but the flat section looks like 125... it's probably 125's. i will say, i hate the water bottle bosses.
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Hi, I'm sorry for the dumb questions, but I haven't been able to find any answers. Anyways, I recently purchased a 53 Kilo TT and would like to purchase some wider wheels. It looks like the widest wheels that will fit are 700 x 28, if I buy a set of these wheels do I also need to buy new rims. I thought I would have to, but when I'm looking at rims online, the only thing I see for a size is 700c? Do wheelsets for road/track bikes come in different widths? Also, if I don need to buy new rims, some say Shimano compatible and some say Campy compatible, does this mean what kind of hub? Thanks in advance for any help.
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Old 06-04-08, 08:19 PM
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For rubber, no, the 700c will work on your Kilo wheelset. You don't need new rims either, just get whatever width you want-----the width is measured in millimetres and I think some guys have said that in this thread that 28mm is the maximum width on a Kilo TT frame.
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Calden

There are no dumb questions. Yours made me finally look up the difference in road bike wheel size designations. Very confusing. Look at this but don't bother memorizing it: http://www.sheldonbrown.com/tire-sizing.html

Keep in mind there is a sharp distinction between "wheels" and "tires." A wheel is generally all metal, consisting of the rim, spokes, and hub. The tire is just the inflatable rubber part.

Any specific rim width is capable of taking a varying range of tire widths. In your case, with "700c" wheels you would not need new rims. Your current wheels should be able to accept 28mm wide tires, and the size would be listed as 700x28c, or something recognizably close.

As for the Shimano or Campy compatibility, it's probably related to cassettes or cogs, and completely unrelated to tire size.
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for the record, i briefly had a 700x32 panaracer tserv on my 57 with no problems. that's a pretty beefy tire. i think the first place they rub is on the bridge behind the bottom bracket.
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There's some nice bikes in this thread.

I was thinking about buying a Kilo TT as an entry level track bike and I was wondering if anyone actually races their Kilo TT at the track? If so, how does it perform?
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There's some nice bikes in this thread.

I was thinking about buying a Kilo TT as an entry level track bike and I was wondering if anyone actually races their Kilo TT at the track? If so, how does it perform?
Just checked Tues. night... Yep; mine's still faster than me!

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Jet & Puke - thanks for the help!
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Originally Posted by pirate golf View Post
Will this brake setup work for a newb on a budget?

http://bikeisland.com/cgi-bin/BKTK_S...ls&ProdID=1085

I'm guessing I'll need a small shim since the bars are 25.4mm and the clamp on the lever is 26.0mm. Other than that, any problems?

Also, are the chain ring, cog, and chain 1/8" or 3/32"?

Thanks in advance.
I ordered that brake set up for my Windsor and it worked just fine.
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I ordered that brake set up for my Windsor and it worked just fine.
The Hour?
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yes
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yes
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