Charlesbian

then why dont they use formulas

time bandit

thats why he said he's going to start to on all those bikes.

Charlesbian

blargh, typical, AFTER i order mine...

time bandit

well, the hour and messenger have had them lately. and he said the kilo tt pro will have them upon their release, i dont know if he's gonna change the original kilo tt till he sells alll those wheels.

Oh No

and he said formulas are CHEAPER then the stock hubs on the kilo now? those things are trash as hell.

Charlesbian

i missed the kilo TT pro post. What are the specifics? What will be the price?

bonechilling

No, he said that they were more expensive and, as he thought, better than Formulas.

When did he say that? He seemed to make the case that he had no interest in Formula hubs. He thinks the quality isn't as high as the ones he is using now.

bonechilling

Here you go.

Charlesbian

any idea on how much its gonna cost? I hope at least 100$ more than the regular kilo, otherwise im going rile against the gods.

bonechilling

It's all in the thread. There is no set price-point yet, but I think he was saying something like $500-$600 complete, and the framesets would be available stand-alone for $300-ish. That's all from memory, though.

Charlesbian

so thats comparable to a IRO huh. Thanks.

mobolegumes

The current stock hubs are more expensive than the formulas but the bikesdirectguy didn't mention that they are worse than the formulas. What's so bad about the stock ones anyway? Can the bearings be replaced with phils like the formulas?

knucks

Well, I was able to strip the lockring threads were easily..and I've ****ed up my own Formulas many a time and have yet strip those..

dddave

..?


anyway, i wish i had wheels to replace the stock set. i am still rockin' those, i need some aeroheads!

ehub3

i just got one of these bikes(50cm) for x-mas,,,i love it,,the pedals do suck(oh well),,,but as a starter fixed gear,, you cant go wrong!!!,,the pedal overlap is not a problem,,,are people having problems with this**********? all in all,,,a top notch working class hero!!!! go get one!!!!!

knucks

What in the fu(k? Do you not know punctuation at all?

gearkraft

ive had some issues with toe overlap.. just one of those things. I imagine things will improve partially with the addition of some MKS pedals/clips.

ehub3

yea,i'm new to fixed gear geometry and was really freaked out about what i had read about the toe overlap. but getting the bike and riding it,my mind was eased.

bonechilling

Why would you think that MKS pedals and clips would interfere less than some generic ones? The issue is with the headtube angle and the fork, not the pedal type, since they're all about the same size. So buying some expensive NJS clips and pedals won't magically move the fork out far enough to eliminate toe-overlap.

ehub3

message to all posters,use proper syntax, and follow all rules of writing.knucks will flunk you if you don't.

ehub3

i actually received some mks pedals and clips from a friend,and it did not alter the overlap at all.but once again,i just dont see why its a problem at all,unless you only go 2 miles an hour and take 90 degree turns.

bonechilling

It really shouldn't be a problem, and anyone who rides sub-52cm frames regularly should be used to toe overlap by now. I know I am - I have toe-overlap on literally all of my bikes.

zelah

yeah my 50cm mercier with 170 cranks, kickin the arrospok spokes in tight turns

fordfasterr

teehee..

Oh No

daaaamn.