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Did anyone see the special on bike theft?

Old 07-08-07, 04:10 PM
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Did anyone see the special on bike theft?

Yesterday (I think it was NBC) had a morning special about bike theft in New York. They installed cameras near bikes that were left chained to varioius places and had cameras and GPS tracking systems on the bike. They showed how easy it was to steal a bike that was locked up incorrrectly or with a thin cable lock. One of the more surprising things was that a number of the thiefs were bike messengers. Additionally, many of the bikes were stolen in broad daylight.

Did anyone else see this?? Thoughts...Comments?
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Old 07-08-07, 04:28 PM
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Well then what's the "correct" method for locking up a bike with a U-lock? Sheldon Brown style?
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Old 07-08-07, 04:30 PM
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or perhaps people dressed as messengers to look less conspicuous?


Originally Posted by skanking biker
One of the more surprising things was that a number of the thiefs were bike messengers.
Did anyone else see this?? Thoughts...Comments?
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Old 07-08-07, 04:34 PM
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The best way to lock a U-lock is to leave as little room possible in the interior U for tools to get in. This could mean locking the downtube and front wheel, locking back wheel and seat tube, or locking the back wheel and seat stay. Sheldon's method is good but has flaws that have been discussed before...
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Old 07-08-07, 04:56 PM
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Well, most of the bikes the media "set-up" had either really cheap WallyWorld cable locks or they locked them around poles that could be lifted up. One of the bike messenger thiefs was actually carrying a cable cutter in his bag.
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Old 07-08-07, 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by skanking biker
Yesterday (I think it was NBC) had a morning special about bike theft in New York. They installed cameras near bikes that were left chained to varioius places and had cameras and GPS tracking systems on the bike. They showed how easy it was to steal a bike that was locked up incorrrectly or with a thin cable lock. One of the more surprising things was that a number of the thiefs were bike messengers. Additionally, many of the bikes were stolen in broad daylight.

Did anyone else see this?? Thoughts...Comments?
And how the hell did they know they were bike messengers? Post-theft interview?
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Old 07-08-07, 05:02 PM
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I wonder if they got Cadd on tape this time?
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Old 07-08-07, 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by operator
And how the hell did they know they were bike messengers? Post-theft interview?

Yes, actually--thats why they used the GPS trackers on them---they tracked down the thiefs, confronted them with the evidence and filmed their reaction.

The one guy in particular admiited to being a bike messenger and when he was in the process of stealing a bike, he had a co-worker as a lookout at the intersection
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I hope they arrested their asses??
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Originally Posted by deathhare
I wonder if they got Cadd on tape this time?
Don't know who Cadd is; but the guy they interviewed was some wierd-looking, dreadlocked, coked-out dude.

The also followed a guy who has been arrested for biek theft like 40 times or some astronomical number.
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Originally Posted by skanking biker
Don't know who Cadd is; but the guy they interviewed was some wierd-looking, dreadlocked, coked-out dude.
LOL, yeah thats probably him. He's a BF member here from NYC who claims to steal bikes whenever he can. Username: Cadd.

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Old 07-08-07, 05:58 PM
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i understand the reason behind using a small u lock so that its harder to break with tools, but i don't understand how to get a small u lock around objects and the bike at the same time? could someone fill me in?
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Old 07-08-07, 06:01 PM
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I have a very small u-lock...its tough to get it around stuff sometimes but usually works out. I also have a cable that run around thru both wheels and the strong object.
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I have a lare cable lock that is enclosed in a clear plastic shell. I would get a U-Lock but, quite frankly, i do not know where I would put it. The cable I wrap around my saddle rails onece and the coil sits on my saddle bag. Those who use ulocks on a regular basis, where do you keep them when you ride?
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Old 07-08-07, 06:22 PM
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i use a mini u lock that fits perfectly in my back pocket and fagadaboutit chain around my waist. its really not that big of a hassle. seems to keep me safe too. still have to worry about those people who use cheap walmart cables and lock them to random bikes to steal them later. i dont think i could justify a u lock, 8lb chainlock and some cable cutters on my daily commute.
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Originally Posted by operator
And how the hell did they know they were bike messengers? Post-theft interview?
Having worked at companies in the past where bike thieves run rampant, I have no doubt that if they looked like messengers, they were messengers.
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Old 07-08-07, 06:29 PM
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where is this special? can anyone link it up here?
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Originally Posted by skanking biker
I have a lare cable lock that is enclosed in a clear plastic shell. I would get a U-Lock but, quite frankly, i do not know where I would put it. The cable I wrap around my saddle rails onece and the coil sits on my saddle bag. Those who use ulocks on a regular basis, where do you keep them when you ride?
I either keep mine in my bag, or else in my pocket if I
don't have my bag with me. I use an OnGuard Mini
Bulldog and it fits quite snuggly in my rear pocket.

As for the question of getting the lock around something,
it can be a problem if all their is to lock to are giant light
poles of something, but I can usually find a parking meter
or some iron fence in the vicinity to lock to, or else a sign
post or steel fence in a pinch. I'd rather walk further and
lock my bike up securely than to do so poorly and come
back to find no bike at all. Anyway, my U-lock easily fits
around my tube, a wheel and the post itself.
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Old 07-08-07, 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by JaredG
where is this special? can anyone link it up here?

it was on Sat. morning--i cant remeber what network. it was part of some investigative report series
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I use a largish cable because on my road bike I have quick release wheels and I need to lock them both up, and I don't want to haul a chain on short trips.
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Originally Posted by odie91
or perhaps people dressed as messengers to look less conspicuous?

hahaha




Oh god this place.
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besides the obvious of using cable/bolt cutters, does anyone know some common ways people steal bikes? i've heard of people using angle grinders but that sounds rediculous with all the sparks and noise it would produce. i've also heard of theives using their locks. others?
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Originally Posted by skanking biker
Don't know who Cadd is; but the guy they interviewed was some wierd-looking, dreadlocked, coked-out dude.
did he have a porsche
?

and skank you aint allewered to watch the tv on saturday mornings any more
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Originally Posted by Sizzle-Chest
besides the obvious of using cable/bolt cutters, does anyone know some common ways people steal bikes? i've heard of people using angle grinders but that sounds rediculous with all the sparks and noise it would produce. i've also heard of theives using their locks. others?
Just a few weeks ago a stolen bike alert was posted on this
board where the bike had been swiped from a side street in
New York by a thief using a portable angle grinder.

Also, watch this video:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=J7zb8YXrmIA
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Old 07-08-07, 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by doofo
did he have a porsche
?

and skank you aint allewered to watch the tv on saturday mornings any more

Well, technically it wasnt morning for me as i had not slept yet.
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