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Originally Posted by Six jours
(Post 4878685)
A lot of the kilo riders have gone to 3/32". I've never personally seen a chainring of any width fold. Have you?
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Originally Posted by dutret
(Post 4878742)
Nope but I've seen them get notched fast. Perhaps dura-ace or the like are better but mid range 3/32 don't deal with large forces well.
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A chainring that doesn't even last a thousand miles is an indication of something severely wrong, regardless of its width.
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Originally Posted by Six jours
(Post 4879503)
A chainring that doesn't even last a thousand miles is an indication of something severely wrong, regardless of its width.
This 3/32" chainring WILL be used for about 10.000 Km total, but at the end it will be all a big collection of dolphin fins. The 1/8" will be like the 3/32" is now. The 1/8" chainring that outlasted the 3 3/32" chainrings is another one - it has 12.000 Km on, and it's in such a good shape, I took it off the bike and put it back in the storage, as an almost new chainring. That's the chainring where the anodizing is a bit worn off here and there. EDIT: pics of the 3/32" Vuelta chainring that shows signs of notching after only 1300 Km, are now attached below: |
It's not that I don't believe it's happening, it's that I don't accept any argument that 3/32" chainrings have to be replaced at 6,000 miles. This would require top riders to replace their rings every three months, which isn't happening. Therefore, there must be something to your situation which is relatively unique.
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Originally Posted by Six jours
(Post 4879651)
It's not that I don't believe it's happening, it's that I don't accept any argument that 3/32" chainrings have to be replaced at 6,000 miles. This would require top riders to replace their rings every three months, which isn't happening. Therefore, there must be something to your situation which is relatively unique.
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Originally Posted by Six jours
(Post 4879651)
It's not that I don't believe it's happening, it's that I don't accept any argument that 3/32" chainrings have to be replaced at 6,000 miles. This would require top riders to replace their rings every three months, which isn't happening. Therefore, there must be something to your situation which is relatively unique.
I do mash quite often, as here it's hilly, and running on a SS requires it. Other than that, I don't have a clue. I might dig up one of the 3/32" chainrings I proclaimed dead, and try to post a pic. And then the 1/8" chainring I put into storage. EDIT: could only find the one I put away in storage. And you can see why I stored it away: it's almost like new, after 12.000 Km. |
My reasoning for 1/8 was that it would take longer for them to notch out. Just seems reasonable that the greater contact surface between chain and ring would wear less. Maybe that's just me.
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What top riders? Trackies generally use 1/8th and roadies don't really mash much. Regardless, I'm simply trying to make one point: 3/32" chainrings should last quite a bit more than 6,000 miles, and if they do not, something is wrong. |
Originally Posted by Six jours
(Post 4880163)
In my experience, most trackies now use 3/32". Regardless, wroomwroom isn't a trackie. He's using road stuff on the road and finding that his chainrings are completely done after 6,000 miles of use. Most roadies will tell you that this is unacceptable. Moreover, in my time as mechanic for a fleet of velodrome rental bikes, I never saw a worn out chainring, and these bikes were often 15 years old and running 1/8" chains on 3/32" rings and cogs.
Regardless, I'm simply trying to make one point: 3/32" chainrings should last quite a bit more than 6,000 miles, and if they do not, something is wrong. Hey, I do have a bike with a 3/32" chainring that has lasted quite long without any signs of notching: it's a bike with a steel chainring and a Nexus 8 geared hub. Obviously, no need to mash with this bike, and the steel-ness of the chainring has something to do with this, too. Any chance in your time, the chainrings were mostly steel and not aluminum? That might explain your happy memories. |
You're not reading very carefully, I'm afraid. I run a singlespeed, and hence am condemned (blessed with?) to mash uphills. Any chance in your time, the chainrings were mostly steel and not aluminum? That might explain your happy memories. |
When I went to the shop to buy a cog, they only had the size I wanted in 1/8", so I had the choice of either running a 1/8 chain/cog on a 3/32 chainring or waiting 3 days to ride my bike... you can all guess what I chose.
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Originally Posted by Six jours
(Post 4880230)
I understand that you are riding singlespeed, and that you're riding 3/32" (which is road stuff) on it. The question then becomes "Why are top road racers riders not having to replace their chainrings every few months?" The argument that top road racers don't "mash" is, as a rule, incorrect, so there must be something else going on. Again, it's not that I disbelieve you, it's just that our experiences are so wildly different that I wonder what's going on.
I wonder, too, why I seem to notch up the chainrings on the light commuter, and I am now going to appeal to your experience, much larger than mine. I'm serious, if you can think of anything, by summoning your vast knowledge, I'd be extremely interested. Or else I'm really disappointed with alu 3/32" chainrings.
Originally Posted by Six jours
(Post 4880230)
I'm not that old, mate!
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"Vast knowledge" he says. :rolleyes: :lol:
I do wonder what brand of ring you are using. Perhaps some low-end rings are made with poor metal? |
i have a 3/32 chainring that's totally done for - lots of bent/worn/misshapen teeth and really noisy at about 1,500 -2,000 miles. i should note, however, that it's a $15 rocket ring and i like a lot (more than recommended) of chain tension. i've learned my lesson on that one - too much chain tension can really mangle your chainrings.
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Originally Posted by ))<>((
(Post 4881157)
i have a 3/32 chainring that's totally done for - lots of bent/worn/misshapen teeth and really noisy at about 1,500 -2,000 miles. i should note, however, that it's a $15 rocket ring and i like a lot (more than recommended) of chain tension. i've learned my lesson on that one - too much chain tension can really mangle your chainrings.
Thanks, by the way, for helping me in not feeling like the weird guy in the thread, and that there are others who can notch an alloy chainring in less than a thousand miles. |
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