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Old 07-26-07, 07:04 AM
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Innovative way to secure a saddle?

So I have a B-17 and I don't really want to run a chain down behind my seatpost. Does anyone have any idea to deter theft besides this method?

I'm thinking running the chain INSIDE the seatpost to a rod JB welded across the diameter of the frame's seatpost tube.... it could work. But this would need a super long chain.

Ideas?

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Originally Posted by peabodypride
So I have a B-17 and I don't really want to run a chain down behind my seatpost. Does anyone have any idea to deter theft besides this method?

I'm thinking running the chain INSIDE the seatpost to a rod JB welded across the diameter of the frame's seatpost tube.... it could work. But this would need a super long chain.

Ideas?

On, and in before people telling me to just not ride my brooks.
Epoxy a bearing in the allen bolts.

Melt wax in the allen bolts.
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My seat clamp isn't allen =\
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cable lock through the rails. in addition to, not instead of, a u lock.
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Originally Posted by dirtyphotons
cable lock through the rails. in addition to, not instead of, a u lock.
+1. Couple of companies sell these lock/cable combos. Also, get rid of the QR-- put in an allen bolt, or use a Pitlock. I usually put an ugly Velox cover over my Brooks [when parking the the bike], and a black trash bag does wonders for uglifying a saddle.
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Originally Posted by peabodypride
My seat clamp isn't allen =\
replace it with an allen.
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Buy a separate short cable to lock through just for the seat.
Someone also said you could fill the bolt head with silicone. Slows em down maybe. No idea.
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Urban Velo (issue one page 60 in the hard copy) had a tip a few issues back: make a short chain loop through rails and then through the seat stays. If you are concerned about the finish of your steed, put a piece of tube over the chain.

They had some pics. Without the tube it actually looks cool.
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Originally Posted by zoeglassjd
Urban Velo (issue one page 60 in the hard copy) had a tip a few issues back: make a short chain loop through rails and then through the seat stays. If you are concerned about the finish of your steed, put a piece of tube over the chain.

They had some pics. Without the tube it actually looks cool.

Didnt read the original post did ya?
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hmm, I guess you mean the VERY FIRST sentence. Good point.

Sorry, I guess (1) my coffee has not fully kicked in and (2) (in retrospect) he may have been interested in the tube around the chain thing.
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I carry a heavy duty kryptonite cable auxiliary to my U-Lock. Run it through the saddle raiils and front wheel. Kryptonite sells some packages which include both.
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Since so many people wrap a bike chain with an bike tube, I just used a bike tube in hopes that a seat-thief would think there's a chain inside. It's worked so far. Shhh.

But it's ugly. Don't do it. hah.
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How about using a quick release, and take the seat/post with you?

I'm sure an allen bolt wouldn't deter a theif, as they probably have a wrench along with their other tools of mayhem and destruction.

Perhaps a Torx bolt would do the trick?
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Originally Posted by baxtefer
Originally Posted by peabodypride
My seat clamp isn't allen =\
replace it with an allen.
+bajillions.
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Originally Posted by 9Rings
How about using a quick release, and take the seat/post with you?

I'm sure an allen bolt wouldn't deter a theif, as they probably have a wrench along with their other tools of mayhem and destruction.

Perhaps a Torx bolt would do the trick?
If you're gonna replace it with a funky bolt you'll need a separate bit for, then you may as well go all the way and use a special security bolt. Torx with a pin or some weird triangular/square/nonfigurative head pattern, the kind with 2 holes etc.
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Exactly.

An allen bolt would deter a casual, "oh look at that nice seat right there" type of theif. Any type of theif who actually rides/uses bikes would have a 5mm allen key on them already, so an allen bolt isn't really any sort of security upgrade.


Get a Torx, security Torx, Gordian knot, etc. and it'll be much more secure.

Or use an allen bolt, and make sure you have it set to the right height, and file that mutha down to a nub, and then NOBODY'S going to be getting that seat off without some effort back in the shop.
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RTV sealant in allen head. You have to dig at it with an x-acto knife for a few minutes before you can get an allen key in.
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Originally Posted by sethw
Since so many people wrap a bike chain with an bike tube, I just used a bike tube in hopes that a seat-thief would think there's a chain inside. It's worked so far. Shhh.
Brilliant!
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Originally Posted by 9Rings
How about using a quick release, and take the seat/post with you?
That's what I'd do, if I was worried about it.
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Originally Posted by skinnyland
That's what I'd do, if I was worried about it.
Kinda sucks if you have grease on the post/in the tube, plus resetting the height/alignment can be tedious, even with cheater marks. (Maybe I'm too fussy with my saddle arrangement...I like it juuuust right.)

I mentioned it earlier, but will again: if you don't like the cable/u-lock combo, go with a Pitlock. I've heard good things. Of course, it costs as much as the saddle, but what the hell. Peter White stocks 'em, as well as a variety of combo kits. Read his ad copy and you'll be plenty paranoid.
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Originally Posted by baxtefer
replace it with an alien.
Fixed.
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for light duty security, get a thin length of cable from the hardware store, and use a a crimp at each end to crimp a loop around your seat rail and seat stay. It's the same concept as the chain, but lighter, and less rattley. It should only cost you about two bucks. A good wirecutters will take care of it fast, but it will keep the casual thief at bay since they would need to be carrying a wrench AND a wire cutters.
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