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You'd take awfully long if you waited out every red light... define "good", Retem. If by "good" you mean a law-abiding, outstanding citizen, than sure, you're right. If you mean someone who's fast on the job and knows how to play the city right (timing lights, figuring out which streets / routes are better to take than others, figuring out the best ways to run a light and not get killed when the oppurtunity becomes necessary), than I wouldn't necessarily call it a good thing to wait every red out.
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How come there are never "A question from messengers" threads?
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Originally Posted by time bandit
(Post 5057429)
if you're going to messenger in a major city, i figure you should really learn the roads before you even apply for the job, am i wrong?
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Originally Posted by Retem
(Post 5059072)
actually a good messenger doesn't waste time running lights and going the wrong way remember red light tickets are as much as a weeks pay why would your do something stupid like that
secondly wear a helmet trust me it looks less cool but you could be dead third make friends with the clerks and secretaries it doesn't matter how fast you ride if you are stuck waiting 20minutes for the clerk to do their job (people work faster when they are in a friendly environment) thats why you run lights and take shortcuts and a helmet won't stop death, barely even slows it down, a car won't care that you've got 2" of styrofoam on your head |
Originally Posted by andre nickatina
(Post 5060224)
You'd take awfully long if you waited out every red light... define "good", Retem. If by "good" you mean a law-abiding, outstanding citizen, than sure, you're right. If you mean someone who's fast on the job and knows how to play the city right (timing lights, figuring out which streets / routes are better to take than others, figuring out the best ways to run a light and not get killed when the oppurtunity becomes necessary), than I wouldn't necessarily call it a good thing to wait every red out.
good is knowing what when and where traffic is and ways around it it is also being fast however you can ride as fast as you want and still get the clerk from hell that will waste a half hour of your time bottom line is pay attention time the lights and use common sense also don't ride with headphones on both ears its a 150 dollar fine in my parts I just have a helmet with built in speakers he he |
Originally Posted by okpik
(Post 5060318)
ever done 12 stops an hour for 7-8 hours without a break?
thats why you run lights and take shortcuts and a helmet won't stop death, barely even slows it down, a car won't care that you've got 2" of styrofoam on your head |
Originally Posted by Retem
(Post 5060334)
wouldn't be a problem the longest run I do is about 2 miles one way
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track racer in training and I ride a single speed with brakes I also have been riding around this town for a long time and love gridlock
my daily mileage is 60~70mi stop and go this town is a grid and flat if I had to work sf or nyc or a place with hills or long runs I wouldn't bee so effective |
Photographic memory I suppose? See one street or Av and it's locked in your brain forever. But worst in N America would be Vancouver, since it faces NNE. TO is kinda weird too but easier.
But StreetSmart maps, those fold out laminated ones work really good and they don't fall apart and are not the size of city block when unfolded. A few bucks and you'll be set off well. And if you get lost, do it again. Or just be oldschool and ask someone every single block for directions...you never know. |
Originally Posted by okpik
(Post 5060307)
yes it would but most do not, and to be quite honest, till you've been a courier for quite awhile you don't even know the city you live in, delivering stuff will teach you things about a city most never ever even would think about or ever see
I've lived in Boston for nearly 10 years; I know the places I travel in, but areas of town I only ride occasionally I have to ride by feel. No map usually but if I'm going someplace totally new I'll look before I set out. /not a messenger //slashies |
Originally Posted by Landgolier
(Post 5058129)
Downtown is a CF, but it's tiny. Unless you do food you wouldn't have to know the north end or beacon hill, so we're talking gov center down to the pike. That's like half a square mile, then the rest is grid.
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Originally Posted by iloveboston
(Post 5061263)
actually youre pretty wrong. i hit the north end and beacon hill pretty frequently. you learn it all eventually.
Right, so there's a whole other half square mile. :p |
Originally Posted by SamHouston
(Post 5058489)
Perlys makes a small book which will provide comprehensive coverage while taking up minimal space in your bag, it's the preferred mapbook, book being the key word, anything that requires folding is a PITA and often incomplete. Perly's contain even the smallest alleys
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