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Kryptonite New York Fahgettaboudit in half for two people?

Old 08-16-07, 08:11 PM
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Anyone know how much the New York Fahgettaboudit U-lock weighs?
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Originally Posted by shecky
It occurs to me that the initial point of contact on a round chain is also tiny.

In the end, it comes down to having a chain of sufficiently hardened steel.
The shape wouldn't do any thing if trying to cut with a saw or grinder, but with bolt cutters it could be beneficial.

the jaws would have to open wider for a given link width vs. round link, thus giving less leverage and cutting power. I imagine the hexagonal link is more likely to slide out of the jaws, since the wider angles work out to more of a pushing than cutting action.

The hardened steels U-locks and the kryptonite chain are made of are just as hard if not harder than a hack saw blade steel. i dont know why people think hacksaws can cut locks, they just don't work.

the trick is in exploiting the brittleness of those hardened steels...
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Originally Posted by Civilian.D
curious what you all think about the design of the "new york noose" locks...

https://www.kryptonitelock.com/Produc...=1002&pid=1195
I dont see the point. Move the lock to a shorter link and achieve the same effect for free.

EDIT: never mind, some chains don't have enough room for this between the links.
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Originally Posted by deathhare
Anyone know how much the New York Fahgettaboudit U-lock weighs?
4 pounds, IIRC.
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Originally Posted by shecky
Any particular hardware store may carry chain for mission critical applications, where significant monetary investments or even lives are at stake. Applications much more critical than holding a bicycle to a post. Such chain does indeed exist. It's commonly available, and not even very expensive.
You didn't read the bit about "strong against lengthwise forces, not hardened to make it difficult to cut", did you?
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Why don't you get the 70cm NY Noose instead? It'll be lighter, and give you a lot more usable chain than the same length Fahgettaboudit.



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If I'm looking for a shrouded lock for my homebuilt chain lock, should I use something like this?
https://www.northerntool.com/webapp/w...9357_200319357
https://www.northerntool.com/webapp/w...6924_200246924
https://www.northerntool.com/webapp/w...9793_200319793
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I doubt that you will fit a serious chain into any of those locks, for a start.

This, despite having no shroud, will be tougher than any of those locks:
https://www.northerntool.com/webapp/w...9351_200319351

The masterlock 'titanium' is little more than a luggage lock. mostly plastic.

I use a small abus discus with a 5mm hardened chain as a cafe lock, for low crime areas. But if you are making your own NY chain, you are going to have to use a Abus Discus 20 series that will set you back $35-50

It ain't just about the chain. A lot of the value in the Kryptonite chains is the lock you get with them.
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Originally Posted by radical_edward
I doubt that you will fit a serious chain into any of those locks, for a start.
I noticed the same thing after I posted the links. I already have a Kryptonite U-Lock, I am just wanting a second type of lock to further beef up my security...

The only place I lock up outside is at work, so I plan on leaving both locks attached to the rack/etc., so weight/size isn't an issue.
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Originally Posted by doomkin
i use a square security chain i purchased off of mcmaster.com in conjunction with a nyc faghettaboutit ulock. over kill? perhaps. but seems everyone and their brother has had their bike stole and i for one, do not want to be of that group.
I'm looking at the square security chains on mcmaster.com right now and am wondering if two feet is enough? The next available size is five feet, which certainly would be overkill. Suggestions?
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Originally Posted by Ziemas
Why don't you get the 70cm NY Noose instead? It'll be lighter, and give you a lot more usable chain than the same length Fahgettaboudit.



I had few Breezer Thunders back in the 90s, a Lightning too and the red one..Storm? Those are some nice hardtails
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Originally Posted by Old Dirt Hill
Hi OLDDIRTHILL, this is how a shrouded padlock is used:



the lock you linked too is excellent for this purpose, but you need to have a chain that has one link longer , so the the other end of the chain can slip thru (like above pic)

one of the best locks if you DONT have a chain with a longer link, is to use your chain with one of these, a CISA MONOBLOCK, that way you can get both chain end links onto the lock:



with thanks to Lockitt for the pics!



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Yikes...that Cisa is pricey. $70
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Originally Posted by Old Dirt Hill
This thread interests me because I already use a kryptonite U Lock and am looking for an inexpensive but effective second lock to use in conjunction with the U Lock.

I'm interested in some hardware store chain but I don't know what kind of padlock to attach to it. That www.mcmaster.com link has some interesting options for chains, but again I ask - what padlock should I use?
i have a new u lock that came with my kryptonite chain and don't want it. you ?
 
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Originally Posted by na975
i have a new u lock that came with my kryptonite chain and don't want it. you ?
I want it. And need it. Then I could be rid of ye olde Bell/no name U-Lock.
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get rid of that thing quick, it might be bic pennable. but then again i dunno how bad theft is in missouri, just the sight of a lock might be deterent enough
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Originally Posted by dblock
get rid of that thing quick, it might be bic pennable. but then again i dunno how bad theft is in missouri, just the sight of a lock might be deterent enough
It's got the round key, but I tried several different pens and they were too small to fit around the center peg of the lock mechanism. Still, a 2x4 or pipe would probably crack it in <10 seconds.
I just got it for a temporary solution to use with my low-end cable lock. That said, where I'm parking it the best lock I've seen is a $2 combo chain.

Anyways considering this, I'm planning on getting an Evo series lock, because it's not likely to be messed with since it's a lock (and a good one at that) but if it somehow got cracked the insurance would cover my bike (I only need $500 worth).
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Old 08-17-07, 03:35 PM
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when i lived in albany, ny i used a bell u lock on my crappy ass bmx. it worked
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Does the New York Fahgettaboudit also work in other cities?

Perhaps they should market these things regionally:

The Detroit Don'teventhinkaboutit.

The Chicago Whatcholookinatpunk

The Boise Pleasedon'tstealmeplease
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Does the New York Fahgettaboudit also work in other cities?

Perhaps they should market these things regionally:

The Detroit Don'teventhinkaboutit.

The Chicago Whatcholookinatpunk

The Boise Pleasedon'tstealmeplease
The Atlanta Ourbaseballteamsuckssowhyareyouevenherestealingbikes?
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obviously because new york is the toughest hood
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lol.
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The point of the noose chain is to be able to carry a shorter chain. Instead of having to go around the object and come back to the lock.

I find this thread interesting.
Specially how so many people are so cheap. They would go to a hardware store and buy a cheopo china lock rather that going for the quality.
BTW, most Kryptonite products are made in China too


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Originally Posted by Patd265
The point of the noose chain is to be able to carry a shorter chain. Instead of having to go around the object and come back to the lock.

I find this thread interesting.
Specially how so many people are so cheap. They would go to a hardware store and buy a cheopo china lock rather that going for the quality.
BTW, most Kryptonite products are made in China too


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Because "Made in the US of A" makes all that big of a difference in quality. I've seen crap from either side.

Honestly anymore, even your hair is made in China and shipped to your follicles while you're asleep.
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Originally Posted by Old Dirt Hill
Yikes...that Cisa is pricey. $70
try buying it (or any good locks) up in Canada, that CISA is $160 - 180 CDN up here. A New York Fugggeeetttaboutit lock is between $120 - $150 CDN at the local LBS's. Never mind the Fuggeettaboutit cahin and U lock at $120 - 160 CDN.

You guys have it good down there in the USA.

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