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Old 08-16-07, 06:40 PM
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Spoke Length for HF Phils laced to Open Pro

I want to buy the spokes aside from a bike shop ordering so that I can get things for cheaper. Does anyone know what the length of their spokes were (if they built them themselves). I am getting a 3x cross pattern on both wheels and the rear wheel is double fixed.

I got these calcs from various programs so I'm really not too sure about ordering just yet since the # are a little different. (these # are with 14g spokes but what are your measurements for double butted as well?)
Front
291.93
291.6
291.5

Rear
291.3
291.03

Does this sound right to anyone?
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I always round down. For get about anything to the right of the decimal.

Dbl butted same length as strait gage.
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I always round down. For get about anything to the right of the decimal.

Dbl butted same length as strait gage.
only thing now is that i see that there are only 290 or 292 for spoke length. which one should I get?
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Try Excel sports. Them may have 291's if not I'd go with 290's
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Originally Posted by DDYTDY
Try Excel sports. Them may have 291's if not I'd go with 290's
thanks one thing i forgot to ask. how do i determine what size nipples to get?
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Most spokes come with nipples.
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I would do a little more research if i were you because i have read several places of people always rounding up. In any case you wouldn't have major problems within a couple mm unless you are doing radial which requires a closer match.
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i usually round up
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I round up, and get the standard 12mm long nipples.
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I've been rounding down for a few wheels. I think,, think I read that somewhere? Could be I read wrong.

My apologizes...

Where's my copy of The Bicycle wheel?....
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Ggrrr I know a read somewhere besides Bikeforum to round down. I can't find it in The Bicycle Wheel or on line anywhere accept in this thread

https://www.bikeforums.net/bicycle-mechanics/226361-wheel-building-question-good-rim-vs-bad-rim-can-you-check.html

I'm still in the round down camp. I have ran out of thread once or twice. Sucks to take a wheel apart.
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Originally Posted by DDYTDY
I'm still in the round down camp. I have ran out of thread once or twice. Sucks to take a wheel apart.
Mhhmm, not being able to get the spoke tension high enough chews. I vote round down (I also vote for taking a look at multiple sources or bribing a good shop to provide you w/ lengths).
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