Convinced a friend to get a track bike today, hilarity ensues
08-19-07, 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by LoRoK
Just to defend myself a little, it was my friends choice to ride brakeless and against my advice ... before we went out I fixed his straps and I tested his bike and when I layed down some skids on his bike there was no slippage of the cog/lockring.
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08-19-07, 12:07 PM
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I don't understand how a lock ring could allow a cog to come off... if the cog started spinning off, when it hits the lock ring it couldn't get past the lock ring unless the lock ring was dangling off the hub on half of it's threads (as in, less than hand tight, baby hand tight...)... i call BS
08-19-07, 01:20 PM
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I don't understand how a lock ring could allow a cog to come off... if the cog started spinning off, when it hits the lock ring it couldn't get past the lock ring unless the lock ring was dangling off the hub on half of it's threads (as in, less than hand tight, baby hand tight...)... i call BS
08-19-07, 01:34 PM
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Quit hating on LoRoK.. we all forget things sometimes, or don't think of them. Not checking the cog and lockring was his only mistake, and that's almost as much Performance's mistake as his.
All this talk of stripping makes me want to... rapidly embrace bolt-on cog systems like Level's. Can't wait until these become the standard. Thread-on is bull****.
All this talk of stripping makes me want to... rapidly embrace bolt-on cog systems like Level's. Can't wait until these become the standard. Thread-on is bull****.
08-19-07, 02:23 PM
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Yea, how did the lockring allow that hub to come off if you 'laid down some skids' earlier. Something this thread doesn't add up.
08-19-07, 03:52 PM
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Wow. I'm feelin' the love. Just to defend myself a little, it was my friends choice to ride brakeless and against my advice. I do have a brake, and that is why. Second, we were both laughing AFTER the fact. I was quit concerned for the well being of my friend. Third, before we went out I fixed his straps and I tested his bike and when I layed down some skids on his bike there was no slippage of the cog/lockring. My friend does weigh about 50+ pounds more than me, and he's a body builder. I didn't know that he would have been able to spin the cog off. Seriously, he's one of my best friends, why would I want him to be hurt?
"I was all, "come on, don't be a mangina, let's go hit these hills" and he finally gave in."
08-19-07, 04:01 PM
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08-19-07, 04:22 PM
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08-19-07, 04:23 PM
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08-19-07, 04:42 PM
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if the lock ring is cheap, and the cog is a cheap stamped cog- which they are on those bikes- then yes, the lock ring will come off, effectively stripping the hub. if the hub is truly stripped, there is a easy/cheap/good way to fix it without replacing the hub. let us know if it's stripped out.
08-19-07, 05:11 PM
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Lets give LoRok the benefit of the doubt on this; seems like an honest mistake with bad story telling 
It sounds like the lockring either came off or the threads were stripped.. No matter what this is a bummer.. But, riding brakeless from the start is just foolish.
It sounds like the lockring either came off or the threads were stripped.. No matter what this is a bummer.. But, riding brakeless from the start is just foolish.
08-19-07, 05:45 PM
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I think you are so deadly right about that last statement. Why oh why do people feel the need to ride brakeless before learning how to ride?
08-19-07, 09:56 PM
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If you checked out the bike and recomended a brake and helmet. then the fault lies with your pal, because ultimately it was your "Friend's" call to perform these percarious acts so, ultimately he made he's own choice, glad he's o.k. hope the hub is not strip'd, maybe this will convince him to run a brake for a few months untill he get's his bearings
08-20-07, 10:10 AM
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your 'big' hills must be weak. A really big hill should have killed your so called pall. No hopping off a bike at 30 mph.
08-20-07, 10:18 AM
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Track bikes are often purchased by idiots, and idiots often think they're invincible. You never see smart people earning Darwin Awards.
08-20-07, 10:29 AM
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08-20-07, 12:35 PM
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Even if you did get him to use a brake, you could have made sure hilarity ensued by vaselining the brake pads.
hyuck, hyuck, hyuck...
*sarcasm*
hyuck, hyuck, hyuck...
*sarcasm*
08-20-07, 01:41 PM
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his muscle aren't that giant!
I met that kid yesterday and he has more balls than bike smarts. not scared of much!
at the rate he is going he will either be dead or great at fixed thing but at least he has a brake now .....but he is trying to do stoppies with them.
I met that kid yesterday and he has more balls than bike smarts. not scared of much!
at the rate he is going he will either be dead or great at fixed thing but at least he has a brake now .....but he is trying to do stoppies with them.
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08-20-07, 02:09 PM
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so in this kids defense and loroks
that **** is wack.
the lock ring was sort of bent in to the crappy cog that didn't have a flat surface to butt up against,(is that the right butt,or is it but , or maybe butte no wait that butte as in crest de)
any way that the first formula hub that I have seen fail, but I think in part to bad cog ...and bad lock ring install.
thank god he has a brake now cause he is rocking a suicide hub on the freewheel side.
do you think performance should or will fix his 2 day old jack hub,by replacing it?
that **** is wack.
the lock ring was sort of bent in to the crappy cog that didn't have a flat surface to butt up against,(is that the right butt,or is it but , or maybe butte no wait that butte as in crest de)
any way that the first formula hub that I have seen fail, but I think in part to bad cog ...and bad lock ring install.
thank god he has a brake now cause he is rocking a suicide hub on the freewheel side.
do you think performance should or will fix his 2 day old jack hub,by replacing it?
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