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Originally Posted by frymaster (Post 5125905)

a couple of points:

1. a million bucks? how many tax payers are there in the united states? 200 million? that's one half of one penny per year per taxpayer. sheesh.

2. bicycles are 'nineteenth century technology'? maybe if mchenry is driving a model t that argument holds water, but the last time i checked bicycles with equal-sized wheels and parallelogram derailleurs didn't make the scene until the late forties.

3. nuclear power? to halt climate change? has no one ever factored in the amount of energy used to mine and, more importantly refine, the uranium used in these reactors? when the darlington plant came online in ontario the government was talking about a seven to ten year payback on co2 savings if high-grade ore was used. that means that it would take at least seven years of full operation before any savings in co2 was realized. now, based on a forty year lifespan, that still means a win, but it ain't a magic bullet. oh, and enrichment requires the use of cfc-114... a pretty heavy duty ozone-destroyer.

Darlington is a CANDU (CANada Deuterium Uranium) reactor, and the thing about CANDU reactors is that no enrichment process is needed. CANDU reactors can use a U-235 ore of 0.7% (natural ore) while LWR (Light Water Reactors) and PWR (Pressurized Water Reactors) require a much higher rate of enrichment (between 2.5-20%). The whole design of a CANDU reactor is based off the use of natural uranium, this is the reason it uses heavy water (deuterium). There are a few other things that make CANDU reactors nice compared to LWR and PWR, such as it ability to use MOX (Mixed OXide fuels), RU (Recovered Uranium), and DUPIC (Direct Use of PWR fuel In CANDU). MOX is a mixture of uranium and plutonium. The plutonium can be obtained from nuclear weapons that are being dismantled and therefore always for "recycling". RU is actually is spent uranium from a LWR. The use of both MOX and RU allow for less nuclear waste. However, the CANDU reactor only deals with waste issues that were anthropogenic in its nature, and of course has waste itself.

There are other problems inherent in CANDU reactors, because of the use of Deuterium, but I am not going to even bother getting into that.

I'll bet dollars to donuts that the nuclear power industry gives more money to his campaign than bicycling advocacy groups. Its hard to fight Monty Burns...

Did this man grow up in a gated community where cycling was banned? It's not necessarily that he thinks spending on biking is a waste, he seems to think that biking has no place in society.. or at least that what I gathered from his pathetic "comic" spoutings.

What does he do when he's being driven around D.C. and he sees a cyclist? "Wait! WHAT THE **** IS THAT!!!?? What is that man doing?"

This is like the twilight zone.

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Originally Posted by Boss Moniker (Post 5128993)

He seemed to suggest that Bikes were antiquated, quaint, and that US Americans are too good to ride a bike.

..or that we are too smart to do something so "19th century".

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Originally Posted by deathhare (Post 5129218)

..or that we are too smart to do something so "19th century".

I think we should do a lot more things 19th century. Let's get back into pedestrianism.

i believe amsterdam, does exactly what the democrats plan is. they might even put more money into bike culture. they are also in the top 3 of the "greenest" cities in the world.

what a dumb idea, it would never work...

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Originally Posted by TechGnar (Post 5129806)

Yep, just crazy.