How do I take off the Miche Cog Carrier?
08-31-07, 11:41 PM
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How do I take off the Miche Cog Carrier?
Just bought a wheelset off CL with low flange Miche hubs (they originally came off a Fuji Track Pro). Anyway, I'm trying to get the cog carrier thing off and it will just not move with my Hozan wrench. The wrench can't grip the rounded splines. And I don't have a Miche splined cog to put on there so I can use a chainwhip. Suggestions? Thanks!
08-31-07, 11:47 PM
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Vice. Or find a friend (internet or otherwise) with a Miche cog.
09-01-07, 12:18 AM
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machine off the inner part of a shimano cassette cog, , leaving a few of the "nubs" and then round those nubs off to fit the carrier. Now you can use your chainwhip
09-01-07, 08:44 AM
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Ask the guy you got it from if you could use one of his Miche cogs for a second.
09-01-07, 10:02 AM
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do you say that based on experience, or based on speculation? cause i've been wary about the miche cog carrier system - being wary of splined interfaces developing play - but i've talked to several riders who have used them extensively (for years of street and track duty), and have reported that they have not developed any play. which surprises me, but hey.
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do you say that based on experience, or based on speculation? cause i've been wary about the miche cog carrier system - being wary of splined interfaces developing play - but i've talked to several riders who have used them extensively (for years of street and track duty), and have reported that they have not developed any play. which surprises me, but hey.
09-01-07, 11:12 AM
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if you want theory to trump experience, go design terminals in French airports.
09-01-07, 11:36 AM
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I LOVE BLOW JOBS!
but the miche cog carrier system does not give good blow jobs. it just carries cogs, and makes it easier to change them as you wish.
I also love a little play... but the miche cog carrier doesn't give me any... ****. ****ing prude.
don't go with miche if you want a little play or some *******s.
but the miche cog carrier system does not give good blow jobs. it just carries cogs, and makes it easier to change them as you wish.
I also love a little play... but the miche cog carrier doesn't give me any... ****. ****ing prude.
don't go with miche if you want a little play or some *******s.
09-01-07, 01:35 PM
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I can speak from experience that the Miche system blows (but, as mentioned, does NOT give BJs). My cog developed a significant amount of play (not the fun kind), to the point where it would begin to loosen my lockring. Everything was well torqued during installation.
It should be noted that luvthemas rode the same (mostly) set-up as me for the same amount of time and had no issues with his Miche carrier.
It should be noted that luvthemas rode the same (mostly) set-up as me for the same amount of time and had no issues with his Miche carrier.
09-01-07, 01:57 PM
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^ do you think the cog itself developed wear at the mounting nubs to the carrier? reason i ask is the carrier is extremely hard metal, the cogs seem to be softer.......
09-01-07, 02:00 PM
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I seem to remember it advertised that there was a little bit of play in the beginning because of machining tolerances. And this wasn't really a problem, it's just like chain slack play. But if it loosens the lockring... not good.
The Miche system is a half-assed solution, addressing only half of the problem. Many people have trouble with the threaded interface of normal cogs (hub stripping, specialized tools), and this interface also drives up the cost of cogs. But there's also a problem with the lockring, which was designed around the threaded cog. Plus, as someone pointed out, splines do tend to wear down.
I think the only real solution are bolt-on cog AND hub products like LeveL or bolting a custom cog to a mountain bike hub with disc-brake mounting holes. It's a shame these aren't being more widely embraced.. Formula could make a killing if they were to sell them at a low price like their ubiquitous threaded hubs nowadays.
09-01-07, 02:18 PM
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It's a good idea if you're constantly switching between cogs, but at the same time the hub isn't a flip-flop (which would make the carrier system pointless) and you can still strip the lockring threads with the on-off-on of the lockring.
