identify the frame builder?
 

currently building this bike.. semi-cheap ebay purchase. wondering if anyone can identify the builder.


http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/8024/img1526xh4.jpg

thanks!

Is that steel or aluminum?

it's steel.

doesnt seem as heavy as i would have expected though.. given the oversized bottom tube.

the fork is polished aluminum

with the exception of really cheap bikes where it's done for looks OS tubes are lighter because the walls can be made thinner without compromizing stiffness.

i say its a Pake w/ nice paint job.

It's from the Netherlands.

I dont know what that thing is, but it looks nice

I was watching that on Ebay. Nice Buy!

1) what did the auction say?

2) do you have any other pics?

3) Is anything stamped? (ie. the bottom bracket or fork ends)

yup.
Ruud's is a bike shop in Hilversum

says so right on the frame :D
give 'em a call: 035 - 6857227
It's not unusual for a shop to have a resident framebuilder.

http://www.zoekned.nl/Hilversum/470673_Ruud's+GIANTshop

looks like you're puncturing your couch there gibroni

seller's pic.

i'll take some more pics when it's built up. polished up a rough set of 75's and they look like new.. with the polished fork, 3T stem,(and assorted other goodies) blue anodized gran compe "carnival" hubs, and some silver mavic hoops, she's gonna look pretty slick.

tomorrow i'll see whats up with stampings.. there's nice shimano drops (or ends, or whatever they are "supposed" to be called)

not a pake..