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Old 09-14-07, 05:05 PM   #1
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Taking color off Deep V - Changing Colors

I have a deep V rim (gold) that i want to make silver. I've heard of people wiping/sanding the color off of a deep V, but I have no idea how to do it, especially how to do it without messing up the rim. help? thanks

OR, how do i change the color? what kind of paint do you use? how do you apply it? etc. etc.

this is my alternative to spending money on rims..
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Old 09-14-07, 05:13 PM   #2
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buy new rims.
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Old 09-14-07, 05:52 PM   #3
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this is my alternative to spending money on rims..
Before or after you finish ****ing up your rims
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Old 09-14-07, 06:18 PM   #4
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i dunno how the color is applied, but if they are painted use, aircraft stripper...if they are anodized then....i dunno, buy new wheels
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Is the old color broken? Is silver faster than gold?

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The gold color's probably anodized. I dunno how you'd take it off without wrecking your rim.
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Old 09-14-07, 08:19 PM   #7
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If it's anno'd I don't see why you couldn't just try spray painting it. I'd just take the tire/tube off and find some way to mask the hubs and spokes, probably some intricate mix of masking tape and newspaper. If it turns out crappy, well, the only alternative would have been to buy new ones anyways.
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the short answer... oven cleaner. this is if the color is anodized on. soak the rims in a sodium hydroxide solution, and then remove the finish with a fine sandpaper or wire wheel. after the color is stripped, you should use a buffing wheel & buffing compound, or at the least a rag and brasso to buff the finish to silver. i have to stress, that this is *extremely* time consuming.

if it's powdercoated, then get some automotive grade paint stripper gel and a handful of masks, as the **** stinks to high heaven, afterwards, you'll have to polish the rims as described above.
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you can powdercoat over the anodizing.

if you prefer to paint, use some light sandpaper (1000 grit) and scuff the surface before spray bombing them.

you can probably get your local auto body place to paint them for around 50 bucks. or go to a local vocational/tech high school, and see if they have an autobody class. .thats good practice for someone learning to paint cars... thats the sort of **** they had me do when i was a painter's apprentice in the early 90's.


the powdercoated deep-v wheels require chemical stripping... it's a ***** to do, as well.

get some of the earth-friendly stripper, go to a do-it-yourself car wash, and once it bubbles up, blast that **** with the high pressure wand.

it usually takes 2 or 3 times with that method, but the surface under the powdercoating is really nice and shiny.
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the short answer... oven cleaner. this is if the color is anodized on. soak the rims in a sodium hydroxide solution, and then remove the finish with a fine sandpaper or wire wheel. after the color is stripped, you should use a buffing wheel & buffing compound, or at the least a rag and brasso to buff the finish to silver. i have to stress, that this is *extremely* time consuming.
oven cleaner is REALLY bad for aluminum.
it eats it, quickly. and makes horrible fumes.
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the fumes are hydrogen gas, very flammable. however, it's not 'really bad', and it won't eat it up, provided you aren't using a 90% solution. wipe the rims down with isopropyl (drug store) or methyl alcohol (fuel line dehydrator/brake cleaner) to oxidize them quickly.
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wow, another jchou thread that could have easily been resolved by searching. Bravo, I thought you'd given up
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I have a deep V rim (gold) that i want to make silver. I've heard of people wiping/sanding the color off of a deep V, but I have no idea how to do it, especially how to do it without messing up the rim. help? thanks

OR, how do i change the color? what kind of paint do you use? how do you apply it? etc. etc.

this is my alternative to spending money on rims..
Here... the best answer from my anodizing 101 group...
GREASED LIGHTNING. you can buy it by the qt, gal or 5gallon jug. Dilute it 50/50 with water and let your anodized item soak for a while until the color comes off... DO NOT USE DE-IONIZED WATER !!!! THIS WILL CAUSE MASSIVE PITS IN THE ALUMINUM !!!

After, rinse in cold water to stop the process of the greased lightning.

Lowes and other hardware stores often carry this product. The alternative to this is using LYE to strip the dye out of an anodized metal. But theis causes larger issues of pitting and can effect the metal (so I have heard. I am not a metallurgist, so I would not be able to tell you about how either product effects the grain of the metal. Either way, once you have stripped the color you can anodize it to what ever color you want.

For more info on anodzing join our group... http://groups.yahoo.com/group/anodizing101

Hope that helps.
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Old 09-15-07, 06:41 PM   #14
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Take the rims to a chroming shop to have them stripped and polished.
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Take the rims to a chroming shop to have them stripped and polished.
doing what I suggested does the exact same thing they will do but cost you about 10$ in material and about 2 hours of time...
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Two hours, plus the time to set up, clean up, go get all the crap, etc. Plus the ventilated space to work in. Plus the time to polish the rims.

Don't get me wrong, if you have the time, the right space, and want to save cash, good for you. Time is my most precious asset, so it's worth it to me to take them somewhere. The quality of the final product is also a bit more assured.
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sell your rims, and shell out the money for the rims you want. better than messing up the rims you have and then buying a whole new pair for full price.
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Two hours, plus the time to set up, clean up, go get all the crap, etc. Plus the ventilated space to work in. Plus the time to polish the rims.

Don't get me wrong, if you have the time, the right space, and want to save cash, good for you. Time is my most precious asset, so it's worth it to me to take them somewhere. The quality of the final product is also a bit more assured.
I thought that was what the OP wanted... to save cash. thats why he asked the question...

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I've heard of people wiping/sanding the color off of a deep V, but I have no idea how to do it, especially how to do it without messing up the rim. help? thanks

OR, how do i change the color? what kind of paint do you use? how do you apply it? etc. etc.

this is my alternative to spending money on rims..
also anodizing does not actually harm metal as opposed to re-inforcing it and giving it a protective coating.
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Step 1: Sell your old rims
Step 2: Take cash (from Step 1) and add cash to it.
Step 3: Buy new rims. VERY IMPORTANT: Make sure you get the color you like this time.
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Step 1: Sell your old rims
Step 2: Take cash (from Step 1) and add cash to it.
Step 3: Buy new rims. VERY IMPORTANT: Make sure you get the color you like this time.
And I was expecting
Step 3: ?????
Step 4: Profit
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And I was expecting
Step 3: ?????
Step 4: Profit
Sorry. Here you go:

Step 3: Post to Ebay/Craigslist with the words "fixed", "fixie", "track", "vintage", "NJS" (even though they aren't), and "conversion" sprinkled into the ad. They'll be sold by the time you get home from work.
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How can you make the rims shiny silver like these:

http://velospace.org/node/3568

Can you get this out of the normal silver deep v's?
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Can you get this out of the normal silver deep v's?
Yes, polish them or have them polished at a shop that polishes stuff.
Polish it in the corner?
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Yes, polish them or have them polished at a shop that polishes stuff.
Polish it in the corner?
Yeah, they turn out looking chrome. But, the polish fades/tarnishes after a while
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