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Cyclists responsible for minniapolis bridge collaps??
got an email from a friend today, with some very interesting stuff... it will make you throw up in your mouth.
link http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/trans...ure_08-15.html yes the secretary of transportation has determined that we cyclers are singularly responsible for the Minneapolis bridge collapse... please take the time and let your state and federal representatives know what you think this is the #1 issue bikes belong is working on and its a very serious issue indeed when a member of the presidents cabinet the secretary of transportation publicly announces "bicycles are not transportation" all of this coming at a critical time regarding our own bicycle facilities on a heavily federal funded project yup the paseo bridge as tim blumenthal of bikes belond told me "we r at war" i say |
Your post title is incredibly sensationalist and does not properly represent what was suggested in the article you linked.
edit: yes the secretary of transportation has determined that we cyclers are singularly responsible for the Minneapolis bridge collapse... |
Originally Posted by SugarPILL
(Post 5302754)
yes
the secretary of transportation has determined that we cyclers are singularly responsible for the Minneapolis bridge collapse... - Mark |
uhh, that's not what I read at all. What I got from that article is that she feels that money that should be going to fix bridges and interstate highways, is being diverted to other projects (specifically mentioning bike paths), but I did not feel that she was attacking cycling as a means of transportation. Let's not be reactionary here.
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A gas tax increase has been on the table in MN for a long time. The current MN republican party has generally opposed it for a long time and this is just shifting the blame off of themselves.
A prime example of an infrastructure investment in a bike path is the Diagonal Bikeway. It is a separate paved bike only path along side a very busy crosstown in Northeast Minneapolis. It was built as part of an upgrade of a primary area artery. It significantly shortened traffic build up by removing the rather large number of bike commuters from the traffic lane. Win win situation, but politicians spin things how they want and even though it directly improved traffic problems it "wasn't an infrastructer inprovement". Spinning a wheel is much more fun than a sound bite. |
Originally Posted by SugarPILL
(Post 5302754)
yes
the secretary of transportation has determined that we cyclers are singularly responsible for the Minneapolis bridge collapse...
Originally Posted by MARY PETERS
Gwen, some of them are, but many of them are not. There are museums that are being built with that money, bike paths, trails, repairing lighthouses. Those are some of the kind of things that that money is being spent on, as opposed to our infrastructure.
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We all know it was crab people.
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ouch, sorry people, I just pasted the email and title I was sent from a friend who was a bit enraged and was only able to read a bout 1/3 of it here at work... I am sorry I should have read the whole thing down..my apologies for the tone it may have rang.
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Originally Posted by lvleph
(Post 5302944)
I think you need to look up the word singularly. Also, your logic is quite odd.
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she does open the door to cancel/scale back bike infrastructure plans though..
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But still..
Im amazed that a person with that kind of power can say that cycling is not commuting and none of you stands up.. I´m sorry I must live on another planet.. |
*cough*troll*cough*
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Originally Posted by TRaffic Jammer
(Post 5303063)
she does open the door to cancel/scale back bike infrastructure plans though..
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If they keep on with the tact that 10-20% of the budget is spent on non-transport projects. (how does one lump museums, lighthouses and bike paths in the same concept?) Are we suppose to follow the bouncing ball logic that things would be much better if we spent 100% on roads? My thought was our western mindset of not inspecting anything beyond a cursory visual, until bloody great hunks of pavement/concrete start falling off is too blame. Not spending money on maintaining existing infrastructure is what led to this IMHO. In a similar vein, the aging water systems in our cities. If the pipe ain't gushing water through the middle of the intersection it MUST be fine.
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Originally Posted by blickblocks
(Post 5303232)
Upgrading/rebuilding the US road system may include bicycle infrastructure. A bike path is a term used to describe recreational roads, primarily. Not bike lanes.
This use of path in the interview is just spin since most people hear bike path and assume it is a trail or such for recreational riding, but this is not the case. |
The ****er cross posted this in the road forum too.
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Originally Posted by shakeNbake
(Post 5303459)
The ****er cross posted this in the road forum too.
so why does that make me a ****er? |
The link had NOTHING to do with cyclists causing a major bridge collapse.
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Well, in general, cross posting is a no no. You may not be a ****er but no pie for you.
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Originally Posted by cavit8
(Post 5304210)
Well, in general, cross posting is a no no. You may not be a ****er but no pie for you.
another thing learned for the day. while i am in the __ithouse, i might as well ask what the term "troll" means... guessing not a compliment? |
Originally Posted by blickblocks
(Post 5303217)
*cough*troll*cough*
Try reading a little. |
yeah i'd like it if less money went into bike paths and more money went into making roads more bike-able. cool.
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pill ain't a troll....he/she has been around....
so someone gets angry over something....if no one got angry over anthing, this world would probably suck worse than it does already. |
Originally Posted by Cynikal
(Post 5304419)
*cough*Idiot*cough*
Try reading a little. Angry iconoclastic youth? Check. Suspicion to incite riot? Maybe internet riot. Sounds like a troll to me. |
Originally Posted by blickblocks
(Post 5304777)
Sensationalist innacurate title? Check.
Angry iconoclastic youth? Check. Suspicion to incite riot? Maybe internet riot. Sounds like a troll to me. |
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