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real track frame but with a fron brake

Old 09-26-07, 10:36 AM
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real track frame but with a fron brake

how do you find a real track frame with the nice geometry (like NJS) but then find the space to add a brake? and has anyone had an accident from the toe clips hitting the front tire. The real track frames are desired for but not practical.
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Old 09-26-07, 10:38 AM
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the front fork is the sole factor in fitting a front brake, so at very worst you have to replace the fork with a drilled one.
top overlap can be avoided just by timing your slow speed turns with your spin.

practical isn't always best. it's up to your taste and what you want.
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Old 09-26-07, 10:39 AM
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plenty of people run brakes on track bikes.

toe overlap isn't that big of a deal, and only really matters when you're going super slow and have to rely on turning the bars rather than leaning.

if you are worried about it, and think a track frame is impractical, quit looking for one and ride something else with more slack geometry.
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Old 09-26-07, 10:47 AM
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Just buy an NJS frame and drill it. Toe overlap is common (unless you're a giant) but manageable.
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Old 09-26-07, 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by br995 View Post
Just buy an NJS frame and drill it. Toe overlap is common (unless you're a giant) but manageable.
I even have some toe overlap on my road bike.
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Old 09-26-07, 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by yoon View Post
The real track frames are desired for but not practical.
What is the difference between a "real" track frame and one that is drilled for a brake? Please, enlighten us.
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Old 09-26-07, 11:11 AM
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brakes and breaks are ugly
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Originally Posted by dueL_ View Post
brakes and breaks are ugly
I think Campy Deltas are beautiful.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...DeltaBrake.jpg

Not necessarily on a track bike, but a vintage road...GORGEOUS!!!
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Originally Posted by br995 View Post
Just buy an NJS frame and drill it. Toe overlap is common (unless you're a giant) but manageable.
in some cases the brake will be too low and won't make contact with the rim. to the OP, kalavinka and dia compe make brakes that clamp onto the fork intself.

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Originally Posted by dueL_ View Post
brakes and breaks are ugly

So are vintage track frames that have been irreparably bent from running headlong into a car or pedestrian.
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i don't get this "real track frame" thing if you are talking about geometry my flite 100 is steeper than most of my friends bike that cost more thats why it is my track bike actually used on the track
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so get a "real" track frame and buy a road fork.
or buy a "fake" track frame like my bareknuckle and install a front brake, hell, install a rear too while you're at it.
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Originally Posted by yoon View Post
how do you find a real track frame with the nice geometry (like NJS) but then find the space to add a brake? and has anyone had an accident from the toe clips hitting the front tire. The real track frames are desired for but not practical.
Is your real name Tadashi?
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Old 09-26-07, 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by deathhare View Post
Is your real name Tadashi?
DINGDINGDINGDIN GINDG WIIIINAR!
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Originally Posted by V-Rock View Post
I think Campy Deltas are beautiful.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...DeltaBrake.jpg

Not necessarily on a track bike, but a vintage road...GORGEOUS!!!
I have a set that have never been installed.

That said, I think they are rather ugly, but found them at a good price.

once I stop being lazy, I will make an attempt to sell them.
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Old 09-26-07, 02:57 PM
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The Campy Deltas look great when they're standing alone, but put them on a bike and they're ugly as ****.
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Old 09-26-07, 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by bonechilling View Post
The Campy Deltas look great when they're standing alone, but put them on a bike and they're ugly as ****.
hmm, I doubt it will, but see if this bike will change your mind
https://www.speedbicycles.ch/264/index.html
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Originally Posted by Doctor Who View Post
So are vintage track frames that have been irreparably bent from running headlong into a car or pedestrian.
yes, breaks are ugly...as are brakes.

choose one.
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Deltas are ugly.
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Originally Posted by yoon View Post
The real track frames are desired for but not practical.
But but but if you don't buy something impractical, you won't be hip!
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just grab ur rim with ur hand
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Originally Posted by dueL_ View Post
brakes and breaks are ugly
your corpse is ugly.*









*note: i am not a brake nazi. i'm currently brakeless and have ridden such for most of my fixed gear lifespan. however, i do feel function trumps fashion, and that if your only reason for brakeless is aesthetics, something is wrong, you should re-evaluate to make sure it's safe.
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Old 09-26-07, 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by jdms mvp View Post
in some cases the brake will be too low and won't make contact with the rim. to the OP, kalavinka and dia compe make brakes that clamp onto the fork intself.

I have a "real" track bike that came drilled for a rear brake, but no front brake. I just received one of these front brake kits from Kalavinka yesterday. They are 8000 yen with shipping via EMS and they take paypal. Took about four days to arrive in NYC from Japan. Installation was very easy and straightforward, just make sure you order the round kit if you have round forks. I'll ride the bike tomorrow and see what I think. Looks good so far though.

As for overlap, my Serotta criterium has much more overlap than my track bike. You either get used to overlap, or you crash a lot. I dig the responsiveness of a tight frame, but they do beat you up more.
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Old 09-26-07, 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by jdms mvp View Post
in some cases the brake will be too low and won't make contact with the rim. to the OP, kalavinka and dia compe make brakes that clamp onto the fork intself.

Or how about buying a frame and fork that is designed with a front brake in mind. If you have to have a track frame then replace the fork.

That brake mount in that pic is unbelievably ugly. Utterly defeats the purpose of getting a nice track frame in the first place.
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