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ebb vs. track ends/horizontal d.o.

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Old 09-29-07, 06:28 PM
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ebb vs. track ends/horizontal d.o.

What's better for SS? Horizontal rear drop out or vertical d.o. + an eccentric bottom bracket? I've heard people say that it is difficult to get the rear wheel straight with horizontal d.o.
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i see lots of fixed gear bikes with the wheels all crooked front and rear on the bike, some ppl just don't give a crap i guess :/
 
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Originally Posted by hamr22
What's better for SS? Horizontal rear drop out or vertical d.o. + an eccentric bottom bracket? I've heard people say that it is difficult to get the rear wheel straight with horizontal d.o.
It's not, fyi.
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If ypu are not riding a tandem EBB has no benifits unless you are using discbrakes. If you are using discs it is the only way to fly. Horizonal or track ends will be equal as far as getting the wheel straight. Horizonal drops usually make tire removal easier than track ends, but not as ez as EBB. EBB uses vertical drops. Edit: EBB has cosmetic benifits of being cleaner/smoother looking but is more costly/complicated.
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Originally Posted by hamr22
What's better for SS? Horizontal rear drop out or vertical d.o. + an eccentric bottom bracket?
Did you mean eccentric hub, a-la the White Industries Eno product?
if not.. I guess that's another alternative for a vertical dropout..
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Not the only way to fly, but one solution.
I'd prefer the horizontal drops/track ends personally.
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Originally Posted by hamr22
What's better for SS? Horizontal rear drop out or vertical d.o. + an eccentric bottom bracket? I've heard people say that it is difficult to get the rear wheel straight with horizontal d.o.
Horizontal. Much cheaper and may not require a chain tensioner. Hard to get wheel straight with horizontal dropouts? Well people have been putting wheels straight in for the last 100 years before vertical dropouts and QR's came along just fine.
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If you're running a rear brake on the SS, having traditional road horizontal dropouts is a good thing. Your brake pads will pretty much stay aligned with the rim regardless of where the wheel is placed.
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A frame with an EBB only really makes sense if you are using disc brakes, and/or you are using V-brakes and are changing your ratio all the time. FWIW, I don't think I've ever seen a basic track/street fixed bike with an EBB.

If you can't be bothered to get your wheel straight, maybe bikes aren't for you? It's seriously about as hard as making sure your shoes are on the right feet.
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He's heard people say it. Don't worry man, it's extremely easy.

And by the way, if you want to use disc brakes, Paragon makes sliding dropouts where the brake mount moves with the axle. Slick, but heavy.
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