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maddix 10-13-07 09:22 AM

Are most Continental tires a bear to install/remove?
 
I bought a new rear tire for my bike, a continental ultra sport, size 700x23. It was about impossible to install using tire levers. In fact, this was the first time I had to use levers since the 80's.
Im skidding with it as much as possible to give me an excuse to buy a new tire. I dont want to even try to remove/install it away from home with a flat.

chase. 10-13-07 09:47 AM

they've been difficult for me also. not vittoria difficult, and not prohibitive to me using gatorskins, but not a walk in the park.

ahand 10-13-07 09:53 AM


Originally Posted by chase. (Post 5446954)
they've been difficult for me also. not vittoria difficult, and not prohibitive to me using gatorskins, but not a walk in the park.

vittoria difficult?
i have rubino pros on now and had a randonneur on the back for a while. i've never had any difficulty with em.

eXCeSS 10-13-07 10:15 AM

Get better levers.

mascher 10-13-07 10:21 AM

Ultrasports are about the hardest tires to mount or dismount I've every dealt with, and the only on which that I've broken park levers getting them off.

It's those tires in particular, not contis - gatorskins practically fall off the rim for me, and kevlar beaded vittorias I found really easy to mount.

Cynikal 10-13-07 10:28 AM


Originally Posted by eXCeSS (Post 5447029)
Get better levers.

If you know what you are doing you don't need levers at all. But they help.

I have some problems with conti's on mavic open pros or open sports.

operator 10-13-07 10:42 AM


Originally Posted by Cynikal (Post 5447078)
If you know what you are doing you don't need levers at all. But they help.

Obviously you have not seen a really tight tire/rim combo.

baxtefer 10-13-07 10:46 AM

i hate ultrasports. hardest tire to mount, ever.

one of these tires cost me 4 tubes, and 2 tire levers. before i took them back to my LBS to have them mounted. LBS used a koolstop beadjack and VAR tool to get it mounted and still managed to pinch the tube.
So i took it back to the store i got them from (MEC) where the sales guy there insisted that he could mount them. 20 minutes and a torn sidewall later he let me return them.

i have voiced my opinion on this matter on several occasions.

orbThorn 10-13-07 11:03 AM

Yeah the Conti Ultra Sports are ridiculous. It took 3 people to mount mine, but after the first time it was somewhat easier.

mihlbach 10-13-07 12:42 PM


Originally Posted by orbThorn (Post 5447188)
Yeah the Conti Ultra Sports are ridiculous. It took 3 people to mount mine, but after the first time it was somewhat easier.

Agreed...Ultrasports are a huge PITA to get off. Other Continental tires I have no problems with.

Terror_in_pink 10-13-07 12:44 PM

its your rims folks.

my Vittorias were a breeze on my old rims. and everything is a pain on my new rims.

helloamerican 10-13-07 12:52 PM

yeah, they can be tough to get on, but i'll give you a dollar if they roll of nearly as easy as any other tire.
edit: also, for the money im pretty positive they are the best. i've used continentals a couple time and each time the tires hold up great and with a fair amount of skidding last usually about 2 months

thats good in my book.

LordFoo 10-13-07 02:05 PM

+a million. I also buy 700cx23 ultrasports at MEC because they're good/cheap tires, but I guess the "2 of 3" rule here is good/cheap/easy to mount and unmount. With or without levers, my hands are always on fire by the time I'm done getting conti ultrasports off my rims.

Landgolier 10-13-07 02:08 PM

An old crusty wrench told me that all French tires are a little tighter than normal, which has been my experience. Panaracer extreme duros are the worst I've ever seen, though, I broke a couple of good levers on them, though the giant pedro's ones finally worked.

Also, velox is unfortunately kind of the enemy with tight tires, thinner nylon tape or veloplugs help a lot.

operator 10-13-07 02:18 PM


Originally Posted by Terror_in_pink (Post 5447494)
its your rims folks.

Yeah all our rims, from different manufacturers all seem to have the same problem with one specific tire.

na975 10-13-07 02:24 PM

gatorskins very hard to mount.....

noely 10-13-07 02:34 PM

Indeed, Ultra Sports have some serious sidewall/bead going on, hardly any give at all! I can remember one time having to remove and install one without levers and yeah... between the cussing and tearing part of the thumbnail away from the skin it wasnt a pleasant experience at all. but overall a good tire for the money... cheap as hell locally.

pirate 10-13-07 02:40 PM

In my experience, gatorskins aren't that hard to mount. Not the easiest tire, but not that bad. Conti contacts are pretty easy to mount, but they didn't last very long.

I was working on a bike yesterday with CST compressor tires (never heard of them before). They were the most rediculous tires I had ever had the misfortune of experiencing. It took two people and a lot of grunting, cursing and wasted time to get them off the rim. At one point we almost gave up and cut the bead off with some cable cutters.

macka_fat 10-13-07 04:35 PM

when you're trying to get that last little bit of tire on, stop for a sec. squeeze the tire into the rim all the way around, on both sides, till you reach the last part that's hanging. pushes the tire into the rim, helps it sit better, and loosens it up. makes it much easier, even with bears like gatorskins. this method keeps me from using levers when i install a tire, which is teh good practice.

kcycrs 10-13-07 04:47 PM

I thought I was the only one having trouble with the Ultra Sport. Although, they seem to come off easier on some of my wheels than others. I still keep them around as emergency back-up tires. But I really don't want to have to repair a flat if my bicycle is my only way home.




Originally Posted by maddix (Post 5446872)
I bought a new rear tire for my bike, a continental ultra sport, size 700x23. It was about impossible to install using tire levers. In fact, this was the first time I had to use levers since the 80's.
Im skidding with it as much as possible to give me an excuse to buy a new tire. I dont want to even try to remove/install it away from home with a flat.


Retem 10-13-07 07:58 PM

get good tire levers and man up

padelsbach 10-13-07 08:28 PM

i have the same troubles with my ultrasports. many broken levers and pinched tubes. it's not your rims.

exhibitx 10-13-07 08:36 PM

running continental ultra in the back, michelin in front

i've broken 3 levers on the conti, never any problems with the michelin

nice tires though for the price

na975 10-13-07 09:50 PM

someone once mentioned using a lil soapy water on the rim to ease installation.

dookie 10-14-07 10:57 AM


Originally Posted by mihlbach (Post 5447488)
Agreed...Ultrasports are a huge PITA to get off. Other Continental tires I have no problems with.

+1...sort of. never used ultrasports, but GP 3000/4000/Force/Attack i can all mount/dismount with no levers. of course, i have forearms like popeye.


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