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bward1028 10-29-07 05:10 PM

surface area of a bike?
 
this is a weird question, but has anyone ever tried to measure or in some way quantify the surface area of a bicycle?
i may be trying it in preparation for a project...

Landgolier 10-29-07 05:13 PM

A +/-5% estimate should be pretty easy with standard geometric formulas.

Please tell me this is for something to do with the actual surface area and not wind resistance/aero profile.

bward1028 10-29-07 05:20 PM

yes, it's an aesthetic project.
maybe i should combine forces with the guy making a model of a bike...

str8flexed 10-29-07 05:36 PM

just bust out a tape measure and measure your tubes...

circumference of circle * length = surface area of cylinder

then you would have to approximate for the areas that aren't cylinders, e.g. dropouts, but most of the bicycle is tubes

if you want to know the SA of everything including your saddle, spokes/rims, pedals.. then that would probably be pretty damn impossible.

jmichaeldesign 10-29-07 06:04 PM

Cut out like a million pieces of tape that are 1" by 1" and go to town. Just make sure not to lose count.

bward1028 10-29-07 06:20 PM


Originally Posted by str8flexed (Post 5542916)
just bust out a tape measure and measure your tubes...

circumference of circle * length = surface area of cylinder

then you would have to approximate for the areas that aren't cylinders, e.g. dropouts, but most of the bicycle is tubes

if you want to know the SA of everything including your saddle, spokes/rims, pedals.. then that would probably be pretty damn impossible.

that seems like a good way to approximate nearly everything. should have said, just the frame. it's a monocog, so it's a little chunkier than a track frame.

coelcanth 10-29-07 07:05 PM

wot ?

is it possible to calculate surface area from a volume measurement (displacement) ?

ride your bike into the pool

fetch 10-29-07 07:06 PM

Who Wans Pi

schnee 10-29-07 07:28 PM

I weep for today's education system. :(

awgrbr 10-29-07 07:47 PM

If bard or an affiliated institution has an architecture or design program (or sometimes a set-design studio), I would try bribing an arch student to make a 3d model of a bike. If you have some good dimensions, an experienced CAD user could knock it out in about 2 hours easy. lots of extra info too... like the Volume of space a bike takes up... you can always save the model and refine it for more precise data.

calf man 10-29-07 08:05 PM


Originally Posted by str8flexed (Post 5542916)
just bust out a tape measure and measure your tubes...

circumference of circle * length = surface area of cylinder

then you would have to approximate for the areas that aren't cylinders, e.g. dropouts, but most of the bicycle is tubes

if you want to know the SA of everything including your saddle, spokes/rims, pedals.. then that would probably be pretty damn impossible.

Don't forget the chain.

crushkilldstroy 10-29-07 08:45 PM


Originally Posted by calf man (Post 5543680)
Don't forget the chain.

Oh Jesus. I'd hate to be the poor guy that has to calculate the surface area of a chain.

As far as the pool guy goes, you could roughly measure the volume by dropping it into a tank of some sort and measuring the overflow, but that won't really help with surface area.

xiamsammyx 10-29-07 08:52 PM

pi is exactly 3

StephenH 10-29-07 08:56 PM

I'd be a lot simpler to calculate areas and volumes than to create a 3-model and then measure it.

eXCeSS 10-29-07 09:00 PM

what the hell kind of weirdo project are you doing

ps come to cranksgiving up here
itll be easier than the hill race i promise

raster 10-29-07 09:39 PM

1. Cut bike tubes in half
2. Measure the space said bike tubes take up
3. ????
4. PROFIT!!!!

Landgolier 10-29-07 09:42 PM

Interestingly enough, I just took 2 minutes and worked it out for a hypothetical 58 (classic steel tube diameters and geometry, no fork, tho) and got almost a square meter on the dot.

sloppy robot 10-29-07 09:52 PM

did anyone answer the displacement question? seal the holes andd toss it in a container where you can measure the diff.. does that work?

eXCeSS 10-29-07 10:04 PM


Originally Posted by sloppy robot (Post 5544284)
did anyone answer the displacement question? seal the holes andd toss it in a container where you can measure the diff.. does that work?

If you're measuring volume, not surface area.

doofo 10-29-07 10:07 PM

you have to measure the size of the splash ^


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