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NitroPye 11-04-07 03:03 PM

Looking for crankset advice
 
Building my first fixie after riding a few and living with some messengers in boston (their skill level totally impressed me and got me hooked, they were all too hooked on coke to continue living with though) I've come to the crankset portion of the build. I am looking for any advice / wisdom on what to look for in a BB & crank purchase.

I've been looking around on ebay and I found these two cheaper sets thoughts?

http://cgi.ebay.com/Origin-8-170mm-T...QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/ANDEL-TRACK-FIXE...QQcmdZViewItem

andre nickatina 11-04-07 03:29 PM

The Andel/Radius/Soma/Alien crankset is supposed to be good for the money. I'm about to replace my Sugino RD's with one.

blickblocks 11-04-07 03:36 PM

I've got the Origin-8, they go for around $50-$60 in shops. It's nice but it uses a road BCD. Could be useful to you if you're into road bikes (spare rings and whatnot), but to get some 1/8" rings you're better off with track BCD.

Btw, what length do you want? You posted both a 170 and 165.

NitroPye 11-04-07 03:46 PM

^^ (re: length) No idea. What are good deciding factors there (my height / bike size?) I'm thinking 170 because that is what I use now on my current mountain bike but that might as well be an entirely different world (more worried about ground clearance and logs)

Also is there anything to consider with the bottom bracket as well? Installing the BB (aside from the headset) is the portion of the entire process I am most worried about.

blickblocks 11-04-07 05:15 PM


Originally Posted by NitroPye (Post 5573985)
^^ (re: length) No idea. What are good deciding factors there (my height / bike size?) I'm thinking 170 because that is what I use now on my current mountain bike but that might as well be an entirely different world (more worried about ground clearance and logs)

Also is there anything to consider with the bottom bracket as well? Installing the BB (aside from the headset) is the portion of the entire process I am most worried about.

I was using 170's with some Sakae road pedals, and I used to get a lot of pedal strike. Since I switched the pedals to a pair of MKS and moved to 165's I've been taking turns far more aggressively and I've yet to have strike. I would think your pedal shape and BB height is more important but you might as well use 165's if you're worried.

piwonka 11-04-07 05:30 PM

if you have a road frame you are converting might as well get 165. if you have geometry with a high bottom bracket (track frame) you could get away with 170 pretty easily. having to worry about pedal strike while cornering sucks.
if you're a taller person 170 cranks will probably fit you better than 165.

BMonei 11-04-07 05:33 PM

You can usually find an almost-new set of Ultegra or DuraAce cranks on Ebay for $50-100 with the crank arms a little scratched up. Just make sure the spindles are ok.

bbattle 11-04-07 05:35 PM

I'd go with 165's. I still sometimes forget I'm on my fixie and take really sharp turns; the other day I had a pedalstrike that lifted the bike right off the ground. I almost lost it but was able to hang on and not crash.

Cyclist0383 11-04-07 09:48 PM


Originally Posted by blickblocks (Post 5573944)
I've got the Origin-8, they go for around $50-$60 in shops. It's nice but it uses a road BCD. Could be useful to you if you're into road bikes (spare rings and whatnot), but to get some 1/8" rings you're better off with track BCD.

Btw, what length do you want? You posted both a 170 and 165.

Why on gods gray earth would you suggest 144 BCD track sizing over the far, far, easier to find and cheaper road 130 BCD?

I_luv_hooters 11-04-07 09:57 PM

i'm glad i don't get stuck trying to be cheap. i don't mind spending more for quality.

Cyclist0383 11-04-07 10:02 PM


Originally Posted by I_luv_hooters (Post 5575829)
i'm glad i don't get stuck trying to be cheap. i don't mind spending more for quality.

What benefits do you get spending twice as much on a crank which will be ridden on the street?

I_luv_hooters 11-04-07 10:11 PM

you get street cred. what else matters?

Cyclist0383 11-04-07 10:13 PM


Originally Posted by I_luv_hooters (Post 5575916)
you get street cred. what else matters?

You mentioned quality skipper. :rolleyes:

I_luv_hooters 11-04-07 10:14 PM

BULLETPROOF $35 cranks. Then you can say I only spent $35!

I_luv_hooters 11-04-07 10:17 PM


Originally Posted by Ziemas (Post 5575923)
You mentioned quality skipper. :rolleyes:

we already had this thread about the quality difference. example: sugino 75s are better than cheap because they are stronger and stiffer. yes, you can tell on the street. I spent $165 on a pair and I love them. Am I haulicinating this difference?? No way.

Cyclist0383 11-04-07 10:18 PM


Originally Posted by I_luv_hooters (Post 5575935)
BULLETPROOF $35 cranks. Then you can say I only spent $35!

Looking at your velo space I see you are a bike fashionista. That explains a lot. Enjoy those 75s, CK headset, and Izumi Super Toughness chain....I'm sure you'll impress a lot of college kids with them.....

Cyclist0383 11-04-07 10:19 PM


Originally Posted by I_luv_hooters (Post 5575949)
we already had this thread about the quality difference. example: sugino 75s are better than cheap because they are stronger and stiffer. yes, you can tell on the street. I spent $165 on a pair and I love them. Am I haulicinating this difference?? No way.

Having ridden all manner of cranks I disagree. Decent wheels on the other hand make a world of difference.

I_luv_hooters 11-04-07 10:24 PM


Originally Posted by Ziemas (Post 5575953)
Looking at your velo space I see you are a bike fashionista. That explains a lot. Enjoy those 75s, CK headset, and Izumi Super Toughness chain....I'm sure you'll impress a lot of college kids with them.....

awww, somebody poopied in your cornflakes today?

.

Cyclist0383 11-04-07 10:26 PM


Originally Posted by I_luv_hooters (Post 5575984)
awww, somebody poopied in your cornflakes today?

.

Nope, I simply don't like bike snobs knocking people who make sensible decisions regarding the parts they use. Enjoy that NJS chain.....

Landgolier 11-04-07 10:28 PM


Originally Posted by I_luv_hooters (Post 5575949)
we already had this thread about the quality difference. example: sugino 75s are better than cheap because they are stronger and stiffer. yes, you can tell on the street. I spent $165 on a pair and I love them. Am I haulicinating this difference?? No way.

Stronger? You mean you've been breaking other cranks?
Stiffer? You mean you can tell crank flex from frame flex?

OP, either of those cranks will be great. I do agree that 130 is preferable to 144 in general, but it seems like there has been such a boom in track stuff that 144 chainrings aren't going to be a problem in the foreseeable future, especially if you don't mind running 1/8" chain.

blickblocks 11-04-07 10:28 PM


Originally Posted by Ziemas (Post 5575778)
Why on gods gray earth would you suggest 144 BCD track sizing over the far, far, easier to find and cheaper road 130 BCD?

Well if you read...


Originally Posted by blickblocks (Post 5573944)
Could be useful to you if you're into road bikes (spare rings and whatnot), but to get some 1/8" rings you're better off with track BCD.

That's why...

I_luv_hooters 11-04-07 10:29 PM


Originally Posted by Ziemas (Post 5575995)
Nope, I simply don't like bike snobs knocking people who make sensible decisions regarding the parts they use. Enjoy that NJS chain.....

fine, point taken. no sense in arguing w/an angry midget.

NitroPye 11-04-07 10:40 PM

Ouch?

Cyclist0383 11-04-07 10:41 PM


Originally Posted by I_luv_hooters (Post 5576026)
fine, point taken. no sense in arguing w/an angry midget.

No anger kid, just common sense from someone who has his bikes for riding, not as a fashion accessory.

I_luv_hooters 11-04-07 10:44 PM

naw, he's right. you shouldnt get knocked for asking a sensible question. i do like those alienbike cranks, but i also like izumi chains and i'm stooopid so don't take my advice... oh yeah am i'm a prada-wearing "kid" who goes to collidge.


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