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Milwaukee cream city frame - opinions?

Old 11-13-07, 09:51 PM
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Milwaukee cream city frame - opinions?

http://www.benscycle.net/index.php?m...oducts_id=1765

Can't seem to find anything on this bike, or its parent company on the web aside from the manufacturer's site. Anyone ever ride one of these?
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Old 11-13-07, 09:55 PM
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My friend has one. He likes it, seems like it's a really nice frame for the money. And $750 for a "Waterford" is a steal.
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Old 11-13-07, 10:08 PM
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they're very tall for their respective TT length, which makes fit difficult for many people. a few months ago some fgg folks reviewed this frame and you can find their review linked from the homepage.
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Old 11-13-07, 11:18 PM
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There was a fairly extensive review on FGG

http://www.fixedgeargallery.com/fram...ers/milwaukee/
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Old 11-14-07, 05:03 AM
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The "Just like Soma Rush" part of the review isn't very encouraging.
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Old 11-14-07, 05:31 AM
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Does the 53 Kilo have the same fit as a 55 Pista? Their top tubes are nearly equal and so are their C-T's.
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Old 11-14-07, 05:36 AM
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hahaha oops wrong topic sorry
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Originally Posted by el twe View Post
My friend has one. He likes it, seems like it's a really nice frame for the money. And $750 for a "Waterford" is a steal.
The problem is that it's closer to $900 with a threaded fork in any color than white. And that really is getting closer to custom price like the fgg review says. Hmm, not too many options in the steel midrange track frame field
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Old 11-14-07, 04:18 PM
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me likey, but then again, im from milwaukee so i have to like hometown stuff.
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i got a ***** when i saw this bike in person for the first time.
they're reaaaaalllllyyyy nice. i've actually considered selling my bike i just made
to get one of these pups, then i realized its winter and i wouldn't even ride it til spring
cause up hurr in wisCANsin we don't like to plow snow, we just salt snow.

but all in all they're fuggin awesome.
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Originally Posted by el twe View Post
My friend has one. He likes it, seems like it's a really nice frame for the money. And $750 for a "Waterford" is a steal.
Waterfords have lugs, Gunnars are tig-welded, so I'd say that this is more of a Gunnar. Really though, if you buy a Waterford or Gunnar, are you getting more than standard 4130 steel? It seems like you would, but I can't find information on their websites.
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Originally Posted by eskachig View Post
The "Just like Soma Rush" part of the review isn't very encouraging.
yes, and the brilliant folks from FGG who take functional Colnago and Cinelli road frames and make them fixed gears are all up in the know regarding good frames.

next?
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yes, and the brilliant folks from FGG who take functional Colnago and Cinelli road frames and make them fixed gears are all up in the know regarding good frames.

next?
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Old 11-15-07, 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by pitboss View Post
yes, and the brilliant folks from FGG who take functional Colnago and Cinelli road frames and make them fixed gears are all up in the know regarding good frames.

next?
Are you talking about the people who run FGG or the folks posting their bikes on there?
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What tubing are they using? It doesn't look like it's listed.
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Originally Posted by bonechilling View Post
Waterfords have lugs, Gunnars are tig-welded, so I'd say that this is more of a Gunnar. Really though, if you buy a Waterford or Gunnar, are you getting more than standard 4130 steel? It seems like you would, but I can't find information on their websites.

Only the Waterford Series 22's have lugs. The Waterford R-33 and 14 Series bikes are Tig Welded.

All the Gunnars are Tig Welded. The price differences in the Waterfords/Gunnars and the Milwaukees made by Waterford for Bens Bikes relate to the quality of the tubes and the tolerances of the cuts on the tubes.
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Originally Posted by Hocam View Post
What tubing are they using? It doesn't look like it's listed.

Verus, it says about halfway down.

I'm a big Soma fanboy lately, I still think the rush is a better deal than this rig, though I'm way more excited about the decal-free setup on the Ben's joint than the graphics on the Soma.

I agree that this thing starts getting close to custom territory $$$ wise, but most people don't need a custom frame, and you can get this without the insane lead times that any but the newest custom builders have right now.
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I'm starting to like Soma Rush as well, it seems like a good competitor to this bike, and a few hundred dollars cheaper. Is there anything else that's decent in this price range? Bare Knuckle I suppose but style-wise I think the Milwaukee and the Rush look way way better.
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I had a Rush, it was a good frame, but the decals made me feel like I was riding a bottle of Sobe.
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Originally Posted by schnee View Post
I had a Rush, it was a good frame, but the decals made me feel like I was riding a bottle of Sobe.
****, I've been trying to figure out what that font looks like for months, that's totally what it is!
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It came down to the cream city or the rush for me just a few weeks ago. I ended up going with the rush, I got it powder coated so it looks perfect now. I love the frame. Its a little better steel than the cream city, but I doubt you'd notice that much. I feel like if you are just buying the frame, the rush is a much better deal, but if you are buying a complete bike, the 20% off you get from bencycles already cheap parts makes it a pretty good deal.
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Originally Posted by schnee View Post
I had a Rush, it was a good frame, but the decals made me feel like I was riding a bottle of Sobe.
The Broma Rush.
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