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ERabbit 11-16-07 05:52 PM

Updates on Freebie Conversion (Pics)
 
Wanted to throw up some new pics, wheels i picked up are 32H Mavic G 40, Campy Record hubs, currently on tubulars (would like to switch this out, not sure if it will work need your guys advice) Some driveside shots, need to take off the chainrings im not going to use. Took off the levers cleaned off the inside of the stem and lowered it, still needs seatpost and new headset bearings + more cleaning. Still contemplating on throwing either a fixed rear hub or a coaster hub problem is only coasters i can find are either 28 or 36, could i lace up a 36h to my 32 rear wheel keeping structural integrity intact? alright enough babbling here are some pics

All the parts i stripped off
http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m...8/IMG_0939.jpg

Dirty rear hub
http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m...8/IMG_0942.jpg

Rear Wheel
http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m...8/IMG_0940.jpg

Another Rear Wheel shot
http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m...8/IMG_0953.jpg

Sugino Bolts
http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m...8/IMG_0946.jpg

Shimano Deore Cranks
http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m...8/IMG_0944.jpg

Dirty Front Hub
http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m...IMG_0949-1.jpg

Front Wheel
http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m...IMG_0950-1.jpg

Whole Bike So Far
http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m...8/IMG_0952.jpg

The entire bike is lower than my De Bernardi but it looks like its going to be a blast to ride once its done

anyway heres the updated shots so far, continuing progress will be made on it, lemme know what you guys think about my questions above and whatever

Thanks

marqueemoon 11-16-07 06:05 PM


Originally Posted by ERabbit (Post 5647194)
Wanted to throw up some new pics, wheels i picked up are 32H Mavic G 40, Campy Record hubs, currently on tubulars (would like to switch this out, not sure if it will work need your guys advice)

Please do not let Loctite anywhere near a vintage Campagnolo Record hub, and relacing to clincher rims is really not very cost effective for a budget project. I recommend cleaning up and selling or trading off the wheels to someone who will use them as-is. From there you can put the proceeds towards an affordable Formula hubbed wheelset.

You also look to have a rather unusual crank/chainring setup there. Which ring are you planning to use?

ERabbit 11-16-07 06:16 PM

i would definately not loctite the rear hub, i was planning on replacing it, i know the cranks kinda suprised me as well, i was planning on using the middle chainring, its a 46t so that would be somewhere in the ballpark of what i was looking for, reading on sheldon's site i believe i would just need the proper hardware to remove the outer chainring and keep the second on

kmart 11-16-07 06:24 PM

Dude, is that a vintage Sugino dustcap on that crankset? Man, I bet it's NJS and everything... :D

marqueemoon 11-16-07 06:31 PM


Originally Posted by ERabbit (Post 5647300)
i would definately not loctite the rear hub, i was planning on replacing it, i know the cranks kinda suprised me as well, i was planning on using the middle chainring, its a 46t so that would be somewhere in the ballpark of what i was looking for, reading on sheldon's site i believe i would just need the proper hardware to remove the outer chainring and keep the second on

It looks like the middle ring bolts to the big ring but I could be wrong.

ninja>pirate 11-16-07 06:47 PM

What are you going to do with the big ring, like said above it looks like the middle ring bolts to the big ring. You could leave it, or grind it to a bashguard or cut it off...
Bet it'll look nice once it's all cleaned up.
It's the best feeling when you take off like 10 lbs of crap off a bike and then lift the frame and wheels and it feels so light.

ERabbit 11-16-07 07:30 PM

definately, i cant wait to pull the rear hub of because all the gears make the tail end much heavier

bashguard is a good idea i might just break out the dremel and go to town

blickblocks 11-16-07 08:58 PM

Interesting mix of parts. I would put a SS freewheel on that wheelset, and try to use just the big ring on that crank. Is it an issue of chainline? New BB or new crank.

DeafLamb 11-16-07 11:31 PM


Originally Posted by blickblocks (Post 5648076)
Interesting mix of parts. I would put a SS freewheel on that wheelset, and try to use just the big ring on that crank. Is it an issue of chainline? New BB or new crank.

As an above poster mentioned, please don't. This isn't just some no name hub, its campagnolo. Campagnolo stuff is so nicely engineered, and so well machined, that with a bit of grease, some beer and a few hours that hub would role like new.

Single speeds and fixed gears are great. I have a bunch. But some things are not meant to be single speed or fixed gear.

Just my .02

-ray

SingleSpeeDemon 11-17-07 07:09 AM


Originally Posted by marqueemoon (Post 5647248)
I recommend cleaning up and selling or trading off the wheels to someone who will use them as-is. From there you can put the proceeds towards an affordable Formula hubbed wheelset.

You also look to have a rather unusual crank/chainring setup there. Which ring are you planning to use?

Sell those wheels and buy some cheap fixed-specific ones. You'll do well on ebay w/those.

blickblocks 11-17-07 11:38 AM


Originally Posted by DeafLamb (Post 5648699)
As an above poster mentioned, please don't. This isn't just some no name hub, its campagnolo. Campagnolo stuff is so nicely engineered, and so well machined, that with a bit of grease, some beer and a few hours that hub would role like new.

1) Umm...no...the above poster recommended against doing a suicide fix, which could strip out the threading. I suggested putting on a singlespeed freewheel, which could always be replaced again with a multispeed freewheel.

I would assume the thing is Italian threaded, but since one would want to put a new freewheel on anyways (multi or single) there's really not much issue. You can thread ISO onto Italian, as long as you don't try to go back and forth between the two (slightly different tooth profiles). I don't even know if you can find Italian threaded multispeed freewheels new, so it's not even worth worrying about.

2) Yeah it's Campy. Don't act like actually using the damn thing is a disrespect. :rolleyes: There's absolutely nothing wrong with running these SS. Guess what? Lots of people did back then.

3) Did I recommend against overhauling it? What you wrote seems to suggest that, and I don't understand why.

Also, it's not going to take a few hours to overhaul it, even replacing the bearings or axle kit. :rolleyes:

teiaperigosa 11-17-07 12:14 PM

I'll take those road wheels off your hands if you want...serious...150 beans negotiable

then you can cop a new clincher formula fixed wheelset

ERabbit 11-17-07 02:58 PM

I'd sell them but i grabbed them from my dad's stack, their from his days of road racing, i will probably keep the front wheel on just clean it up and grab a new tire (this one holds air but is probably like 12 years old) im still stuck with what do do about the rear

*they still roll really well, just a little dirty from sitting in a garage

blickblocks 11-17-07 05:03 PM


Originally Posted by ERabbit (Post 5650746)
I'd sell them but i grabbed them from my dad's stack, their from his days of road racing, i will probably keep the front wheel on just clean it up and grab a new tire (this one holds air but is probably like 12 years old) im still stuck with what do do about the rear

*they still roll really well, just a little dirty from sitting in a garage

Well wheels are really best used as a set imo. It's also a lot more economical to buy a whole wheelset, if you're going fixed. What are you more interested in, FG or SS?

hazylines 11-17-07 05:11 PM

Just buy a new rear wheel, fixed or flip flop. Then you can switch back to the record stuff when you decide you want to, easily.

ERabbit 11-17-07 11:24 PM

do you guys think i can just remove gears off the rear hub, add spacers and throw on a freewheel? i really wanted to make this one a coaster because i already have a nice fixed w/flip flop but for budget purposes i just want to get it up and running

blickblocks 11-18-07 12:25 AM


Originally Posted by ERabbit (Post 5652953)
do you guys think i can just remove gears off the rear hub, add spacers and throw on a freewheel? i really wanted to make this one a coaster because i already have a nice fixed w/flip flop but for budget purposes i just want to get it up and running

Don't need any spacers, don't respace and redish the wheel. Just throw on a Shimano BMX freewheel, and cross your fingers and hope for a workable chainline. On my girlfriend's SS I never respaced or redished the wheel, and with the middle ring on her once-triple she actually has a chainline good enough to work. It's within 5mm.

You could always flip your spindle or try a different crank (or hell, use the tiny ring!) if you're not getting a workable chainline.


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