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Old 11-27-07, 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by shants View Post
while gabbing to some north face jacket **** on a cell phone.
Obviously they don't give you the time of day.
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Old 11-27-07, 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by DC_Emily View Post
Pedestrians are definitely annoying at times, but you gotta think -
If we run them down, scare them, etc. we're doing the same thing that we hate to have happen to us by motorists, right?

I'm just sayin'. . . karma.
I think the same way. I was going to mention some analogies with CM (and I actually dont' even mind CM, I think it's a fun thing), but then, seeing as how my "how about stopping"-cooment went down, I just shut the **** up.
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Old 11-27-07, 08:17 PM
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Oddly enough, that's illegal here.
Really? Its originally intended as a **** whistle. I just don't wanna get raped by cars. I wonder if its illegal here in Ontario.
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Old 11-27-07, 08:17 PM
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From the Surly blog like a year ago:

Fat Squirrel Season

Everybody knows that squirrels store nuts for the winter. They store them in the ground, probably up in trees and they eat them to get a nice fat belly for the winter. But what I notice most about squirrels this time of year is that they are particularly slow, sluggish, indecisive, unpredictable and psycho.

Case in point, I'm riding my bike in a quiet residential neighborhood this morning (with a 100+ pound trailer in tow) and I see a squirrel walking her dog. She's stopped on the corner of an uncontrolled intersection while the leashed dog sniffs around. From a distance, I ring my bell to get her attention and we make positive eye contact. Knowing it's fat squirrel season, I have my fingers on the brake levers as I approach. About 12 feet before I enter the crosswalk, the squirrel decides that her and the dog are going to test their right of way across the street. I skid the rear wheel and start drifting sideways, just barely missing squirrel and pooch. You know when you're skidding and all you can think of is "did that squirrel want to commit suicide?" but you're glad you have brakes and skills to spare it's life.

So as I maneuver around the squirrel I ask in a fairly pleasant tone, "do you walk out in front of people often?"

Squirrel chatters, "it's my right of way"

Me, "you may be right, but I rang my bell so you could see me, we made direct eye contact, you were stopped on the sidewalk with no intended direction across the street and then you just walked in front on me. I just didn't want to hit your dog, that's all"

Squirrel, "you could've gone around me"

Me, "obviously, I just did"

Squirrel "ra ra ra ra ra"

Me, "I just didn't want to hit your dog, ma'am"

Seriously folks, it's fat squirrel season. Squirrels are slow, preoccupied with gathering expensive christmas nuts at the malls for their kids, chattering on their phones and crabby because it's cold and dark outside. The last thing they are thinking about is getting tangled up in your wheels and sending you to the hospital. I witnessed three more very close calls between squirrels in cars within one block this morning, it was like they pumped fresh roasted cashew smell in the air during a coffee embargo. So until fat squirrel season is over, watch out. We wouldn't want your holiday meal to be pureed hospital turkey.
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Old 11-27-07, 08:39 PM
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You injure me or one of my family members on your bike, your ass is mine. I will sue you the Sidis off your feet.

Watch out.
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Old 11-27-07, 08:43 PM
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lol what? Do you and your family member cross the street without looking?
If so, they and you should watch out.
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Old 11-27-07, 09:32 PM
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+eleventy bazillion.

i do what i can, but mother****ers gotta watch out, too.
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Old 11-27-07, 09:43 PM
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fact of the matter is, when the intersection crosswalk light says its safe to walk,
most people assume that some fixed gear urban freestyler isn't heading straight into them at full speed
and thus, dont check their heart rate and blood pulse before gingerly stepping out into the street

you really have no right to be angry, even if it was a crosswalk.
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Old 11-27-07, 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by kidtwisty View Post
fact of the matter is, when the intersection crosswalk light says its safe to walk,
most people assume that some fixed gear urban freestyler isn't heading straight into them at full speed
and thus, dont check their heart rate and blood pulse before gingerly stepping out into the street

you really have no right to be angry, even if it was a crosswalk.
Before you even post, don't.
Go read the original post too.
He said they were crossing in the middle of the block.

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Old 11-27-07, 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by 666pack View Post
i've always looked fondly on pedestrians, at least they're not in cars. but today i nearly hit a crowd of idiots on their cell phones crossing in the middle of a block. at least one saw me as i neared them on the sidewalk, but they went as a group anyway. i yelled at them, but they didn't look, so i swerved into the opposing lane to avoid them and ended up nearly hitting one of them who was ahead of the others.

seriously, did their mothers never teach them to look both ways first?
then as i'm riding off they actually had the balls to yell at me.
Relaxe. Cyclists can be blamed very often too.

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Old 11-27-07, 09:59 PM
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I like most pedestrians... they walk where they should, they pay attention to what is going on and don't mind that we sometimes share the same roadways and paths. Cel phones and ipods are also okay as long as they don't turn you into a meat pylon.

It's the small percentage that pay no attention to what or where they are going that make me crazy and my favourite group would be teens in the inner city who like to play chicken with cyclists...for sport.

Let me just say that catching an elbow from a guy doing 40 kmh on his bike probably hurts a whole bunch and will make you think twice about scaring the next cyclist.
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Old 11-27-07, 10:07 PM
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Some peds need to realize that it's a full time job to walk downtown just as it is to drive it or bike it. You can't zone out on everything or you're gonna get hit, hopefully by a cyclist and not an SUV.
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Old 11-27-07, 11:43 PM
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Originally Posted by deathhare View Post
Before you even post, don't.
Go read the original post too.
He said they were crossing in the middle of the block.
forgive me?
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Old 11-28-07, 12:34 AM
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i always forgive on the internet.
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Old 11-28-07, 12:35 AM
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So what should you do if you actually hit a pedestrian? Most people will probably flip out.

Last winter I was riding a bike path along the charles, when I passed a runner. I yelled "on your left" as usual, but he was moving left to avoid a puddle on his right at the same time. The guy was thrown into the puddle and I slowed down to see if he was ok, but when he got up he was yelling and furious with me. I didn't know what to do so I bailed. I guess should have slowed down when I got near him.
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Old 11-28-07, 12:51 AM
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Same thing you would do in any other sort of accident, make sure they're ok, ignore their *****ing, make sure there's nothing to stay around for, and leave. Of course it's also totally acceptable to flee! when you're going to get hit.

And yes, taking measures to not hit people is a good thing.
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Old 11-28-07, 01:15 AM
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Of course it's also totally acceptable to flee! when you're going to get hit.
The guy that I hit was bigger than me and wanted to fight so I didn't try to talk it out. I feel really bad about it, but I didn't feel safe to stop. Perhaps they should have bike lanes that are for "bikes only"?
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Old 11-28-07, 01:36 AM
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anybody in this thread know anything about hasidic south williamsburg?

you wanna learn how to dodge peds the hard way, here ya go.
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Old 11-28-07, 04:07 AM
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I hate saying "on your left" since it seems to make people move that way 3/4's of the time. If you say a direction to someone they seem unable to NOT step in that direction.
And everytime I ride toward a jogger (who is coming toward me) they seem to drift directly into my path as if I have some sort of tractor beam inside my headset.

...but that is of course the minority. (except the jogger thing)
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Old 11-28-07, 04:33 AM
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^^^Excuse my ignorance: what is one supposed to do when he/she hears "on your left"? I would move to my left, but apparently that's not what is meant to do?
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Old 11-28-07, 07:36 AM
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on your left is supposed to imply "i'm approaching ON YOUR LEFT" which would mean DONT MOVE, or even better, MOVE RIGHT.

I've never had a problem with this except from idiots with their ipods too loud. your musical device does not give you an excuse to ignore your environment (bike paths are shared by many people). That being said, I love buzzing joggers who go along with their ipods blasting in the middle of bike paths. Roller bladers are worse.

What's the hardest part of being a roller blader?























having to tell your parents you're gay.
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Old 11-28-07, 07:45 AM
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oh, well that's clever.
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Old 11-28-07, 08:11 AM
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a ped jumped out into the intersection at 40th and Telegraph (busy oakland traffic) trying to catch a bus that was across the street.. woman did this just as my girl was speeding through on her SS. the woman didn't look for bikes, only cars... and got blasted. unfortunately, my GF took the most damage breaking her leg in the fall. she was on crutches for 6 weeks and it was the worst time of her life trying to complete finals at Berkeley while living on a 2nd floor apartment (stairs only) and not having any other modes of transportation for groceries or getting to school. couldn't even take out her trash. she had to stay at her job, that she had already put in her 2 weeks notice in for, so that she could continue to have health care and physical therapy. delayed her move to AZ by two months. bottom line: she got f***ed by this careless ped.

ped was an idiot, and in the wrong.. but we gotta be looking for them to do this stupid shiz every time we see one. just like motorists, a huge percentage of them will never even see you.
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Old 11-28-07, 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by wroomwroomoops View Post
^^^Excuse my ignorance: what is one supposed to do when he/she hears "on your left"? I would move to my left, but apparently that's not what is meant to do?
"on you left" as in "I'm passing on your left" to denote where you will be passing them.
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Originally Posted by pazzmore View Post

ped was an idiot, and in the wrong.. but we gotta be looking for them to do this stupid shiz every time we see one. just like motorists, a huge percentage of them will never even see you.
it's true. also a reason to be displeased with them.
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