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Brooklyn Machine Works Gangsta, opinions?

Old 12-12-07, 01:29 PM
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So I heard this company Brooklyn Machine Works makes a bike called the Gangsta.

Anyone know anything about this?
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So about this brake/no brake deal on the Gangsta....

Wouldn't it be easy enough make a DIY clamping bracket, not alot unlike the keirin brake mounts....
(not saying it'd look awesome, but...)

my $.02
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Looks heavy, and I don't like sloping toptubes. Other than that, it looks fine.
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I'm not singling you out, you just happen to be the most recent person to say this, but what the hell is up with "looks heavy"?

How can you tell? Tubing diameter? General aesthetic? The 'looks heavy' thing is a total crock and I'm all for never hearing it again.
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I don't like upward sloping tt's either. For some reason, I'm ok with one on this though.

The possibility to tailwhip is endless as well...
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Tubing diameter. If it's steel, take a look at those seat stays and chain stays. Also, the fork. I've worked in a bike shop and ridden enough bikes that I can usually tell. I think the frame is overpriced.
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I've spent enough time on enough bikes with big steel tubes that don't weigh a ton that I'm kind of dubious.

Also, $775 is too expensive for a handbuilt steel frame? What would you expect to pay?
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yeah, if you worked in a bike shop, how much did you bill hourly? Figure that rate out, by the number of hours it'd take you to build a quality frame in your city.

$300 for an IRO, made in China
$775 for a BMW hand made in Brooklyn... NOT BAD
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I don't see where they even list the material. It could be high tensile steel for all I know. Yeah, $775 is a lot for a frame that doesn't list geometry specs, materials, frame weight, etc. Two sizes as well.

When's the last time you saw a bike built with Columbus EL, SL, SLX, Foco, Zona, Life, or even Brain that had big seat stays and chain stays? Same case for Reynolds 853. The only light bike I've seen with big tubes like that was a Peggoretti frame that was Aluminum.

The IRO is pretty much the same bike. It's a basic steel frame. I'll pay $1000 for a a custom steel frame built here in town with whatever geometry I'm wanting, made out of Columbus Foco.
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anyone got a link to a site where i can read up on the different types of tubing? PM me!
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If you visit the BMW website you'll find most of what you're looking for, including the geometry and material details.

I'll link to make it easier for you: http://www.brooklynmachineworks.com/...ta/gang1b.html

I also thought the price was a bit high, but after finding out they're hand built, and also hearing the price that a Surly Steamroller frameset goes for over here, the price seems fine.
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Originally Posted by jim-bob View Post
How can you tell? Tubing diameter? General aesthetic? The 'looks heavy' thing is a total crock and I'm all for never hearing it again.
The problem is that the factors people are attributing to this bike are mutually exclusive.
Large diameter steel tubes and light means thin tubes and fragile.
Large diameter steel tubes and able to take a beating means thick tubes and heavy.
unbutted 4130 just makes this relation worse.
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Originally Posted by johnprolly View Post
$300 for an IRO, made in China
$775 for a BMW hand made in Brooklyn... NOT BAD
Which is why it's ridiculous to make a low end bike in Brooklyn. You get a ****load less for your money.
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Originally Posted by Falkon View Post
Tubing diameter. If it's steel, take a look at those seat stays and chain stays. Also, the fork. I've worked in a bike shop and ridden enough bikes that I can usually tell. I think the frame is overpriced.
the stays are knife-edge aero--almost identical to the ones on my yamaguchi.
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Yeah, but yamaguchis are heavy pigs. Look at those stays!
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Originally Posted by jim-bob View Post
Yeah, but yamaguchis are heavy pigs. Look at those stays!
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Which is why it's ridiculous to make a low end bike in Brooklyn. You get a ****load less for your money.
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