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Hocam 01-04-08 05:59 PM


Originally Posted by wroomwroomoops (Post 5925430)
By the way, cycling has a higher chance of getting you killed than riding cars or using buses. Check this out.

Even in Helsinki, cyclists have 5 times more the chance of getting killed, per traveled kilometer, than a car driver. Think of that for a moment.

EDIT: look at this:
http://www.bikexprt.com/research/pas...mages/fig2.gif
I'm seriously considering getting off the roads and back on the separated bikepaths. They may be a bit bumpier, but you can't argue with their safety.

That's an incredibly skewed study. The average commuter is not going 60-80 km/hr. Those should be for hours of use, not by distance.

wroomwroomoops 01-04-08 06:28 PM


Originally Posted by Hocam (Post 5925538)
That's an incredibly skewed study. The average commuter is not going 60-80 km/hr. Those should be for hours of use, not by distance.

Not by distance? I don't understand your logic, if you even have one. By distance is exactly the metric to use, in order to compare oranges to oranges. With all means of transportation (including walking) the goal is to get from point A to point B.


EDIT: I thought for a while about your post, and decided I might not be able to reply to it, because it makes no sense. I don't understand what your comment about 60-80 Kn/h means.

Metricoclock 01-04-08 06:56 PM

as said above, it's the mindset of people

cars are not evil, just people improperly use them or use them too much.

the same analogy can be said about guns
guns are not evil, they don't shoot people, people shoot people, and abuse them.

it's amazing how we as a society will blame the tool and not how it is used.

great picture by the way!

ChiapasFixed 01-04-08 08:45 PM

im starting a thread in the car free forum calling for artistic anti car designs for copyleft t-shirt and sticker projects.
please post your grafic rantings, best design gets a week of free food at my family restauraunt in Chiapas!

kergin 01-04-08 10:41 PM


Originally Posted by Zombie Carl (Post 5923890)
Correct. I'm typing this one handed because I went down HARD in the trolley tracks on California last night. Shoulder's either broken or separated. Screw the trolley and any stupid ****head that actually rides it. I'd trade these tracks in for another few hundred cars on the road any day.

Ouch! Get better soon! Don't feel bad, though; when I was new to Toronto, I didn't think anything of riding over tracks in the rain, until my rear wheel got stuck and I crashed into an intersection...

Best to find a tire that works in wet weather and approach tracks at even speeds at 90 degrees with no tilt.

Zombie Carl 01-04-08 11:01 PM


Originally Posted by kergin (Post 5926968)
Ouch! Get better soon! Don't feel bad, though; when I was new to Toronto, I didn't think anything of riding over tracks in the rain, until my rear wheel got stuck and I crashed into an intersection...

Best to find a tire that works in wet weather and approach tracks at even speeds at 90 degrees with no tilt.

Ahhh, thank you.

It's definitely time to find a tire that handles better when it's slick out.

marqueemoon 01-04-08 11:11 PM

Ugh. We have Paul Allen to thank for our newest track madness. It might be ok if it actually went anywhere I guess. It does have a catchy name though.

Moximitre 01-05-08 01:28 AM

I love not owning a car because it allows me to spend thousands on bicycles and things I actually want/need. Instead of being forced to spend that money on a car I will abhor driving, and generally get places slower in doing so. Speaking from what I have seen and heard, I'd venture to guess that at least a quarter of urban car owners could easily do without them, and likely increase their standard of living because of it.


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