4doorhoor

Just so you know, the bars with internal cable housings and ultra thin aluminum, a la Syntace and Mavic, bend very easily.

Charlesbian

i do lean forward much while t-standing or general slow maneuvering. Then again im only 5'6 145lbs with the upper body strength of a pregnant fish.

lyledriver

I have both the RB-019s and the RB-021s and I find the 21s to be WAY more comfortable =]

TimArchy

I used the syntace bars for a while and, while I felt the flex, I never thought they'd bend or break on me. I had two crashes on them where they hit the ground pretty hard but I didn't notice anything weird. Granted, its hard to tell since they're already bent in some funky ways anyway.

I personally like my chop-n-flips. If I could find some moscow bars I'd be all over them though.

kidtwisty

if 40 dollars for a pair of handlebars break the bank for you, maybe you shouldn't be on the internet.

frankstoneline

My school pays for my internetz. I mean, 40 dollars could be well spent elsewhere. Unless you are REALLY picky about your bars, a chop and flop job done well will show little difference from a pair of purchased bullhorns, which I dont find perticularly comfy. But that is my personal feelings.

TehK

While I like both chops and regular bullhorns, some people look for a longer reach than chop n flips can give. Maybe more drop too.

Straws

I'm looking for both!

frankstoneline

Well then, If you are looking for inexpensive, Ebay is a good starting place. You could knock around craigslist for a bit, check the bigger cities. Otherwise, just buy em, as you seem to know what you want and I believe someone said they thought you could find what you needed for about 40 bones, which isnt bad at all.

Yoshi

I've snapped a pair of flexy bullhorns in half before (Nittos, not the RB-021 though). That was after about a year of use with no significant crashes. I weigh about 135lbs and may have even been lighter back when I snapped them.

jon148

my nashbar tt bullhorns are holding up just fine and I find them plenty comfy.

huerro

No. Flop and chops give you the hood position and the top of the bar position without changing your stem. Unless you're a for real time trialist, flop and chops save you the expense of a new stem (and bars of course) while giving you the positions you want.

blickblocks

Funny, that's exactly why I didn't like my flop 'n chops. The curved up "hood" part was too close and my hands felt cramped in that position. I use bars that are just like the Syntace ones and they give you the perfect amount of straight bar to hold on to. I never touch the part that curves up unless I really want to get aero (something you can't do with flop 'n chops).

I guess everyone should try both.

frankstoneline

+1 to trying both, especially if you have a friend that'll let you ride some of his in either variety.
My point was the OP seemed to be looking to save funds, thus the chop/flop option.

akaio

Has anyone ever ran tt brake levers on these and run the cables internally? Pics? Did you have to drill exit holes, if so where? Would you run the cable and the outer sleeve through the bars or just the cable itself?

Also what size RB-021s are people using? My drops are 42cm but I was thinking of trying 40 with the bullhorns. I know its a knit picky question and I will probably be happy wit either, but just curious of any opinions.

TehK

I'd say stick to what's comfortable for you. If you like 42cm, stick with it.

jotog

Check these out. Good luck.
https://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-NOS-cine...QQcmdZViewItem

niebylski

I'm using the SOMA pursuit horns - linky - I needed something with a 25.4 clamp and they're the only horns I could find to fit the bill, err, quill. $35

I guess you could get a 25.4-->26.0 shim for 'em if you wanted.