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Old 01-06-08, 11:17 PM
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I'm trying to get some recommendations from IRO owners on U-Locks for my IRO Jamie Roy. I already own a Krypto NY Fahgettaboudit Chain & Disc which I used on my old bike so this will act as my new primary for the IRO & the U-L will be used as my 2nd lock, specifically for my front wheel and frame. I was going to purchase a Krypto NY Fahgettaboudit U-L(3x6) but, after some measurements I don't think it will fit? Since IRO's frames have larger tubing it needs a little extra length to fit. What does everyone else use on their IRO for this area specifically? Any help would be greatly appreciated, thanks...
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just buy a kryptonite evo and a wheel cable. according to sheldon brown, to break through both the lock and cable requires 2 different bulky tools.
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sheldon has apparently never heard of a reciprocating saw.
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I'm more concerned with what size would work best and not really with which style. I don't really trust cables plus, I already have a Chain & Disc so I don't think theirs much need for a cable and I think just the right U-L would do...
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the kryto mini fits the mark v fine. plenty of room.
 
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The OnGuard Bulldog mini is just long enough to lock my front wheel to the downtube on my Jamie Roy (with the stock fork). You might be able to fit part of a bike rack into the shackle as well, depending upon how you plan to lock it.
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i'm totally confused about this one... how large do you think the tubing is?
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Thanks I Luv Hooters & TheQuickFix for your input on this. There's one more thing, do either of you or anyone else have have Deep V's on your IRO & still use a Krypto FGTABT Mini (3.5x6) or Onguard B. Mini U-L(3.5x5.5)? When I measure mine from the down tube to the tire/deep v it's damn close & pretty much 6 inches hence, why I thought there might be an issue to begin with and the reason for my question...
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deep vs on a jamie roy must be a pretty stiff ride. do you have a local bike shop that has one of those kryptonite demonstration parking meters? - at the metro near me, they let you try out different locks on it to see how it fits your tubing and stuff.
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Oh, I forgot to mention that I am using mavic cxp22 rims, which have a lower profile than the deep v. If you are using the stock fork, you will need at least a 6 inch shackle. FWIW, I use a nashbar carbon fork on mine for most of the year, and that brings the front wheel much closer to the downtube.

Maybe a LBS would let you try a few different locks to see if they would fit?
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I haven't done this yet, but I'm planning on replacing my front Surly axle with a hollow one and using a pitlock skewer that I've got left over. Otherwise I just use a KryptoLok series 2 mini through the rear wheel inside the rear triangle to the bike rack/parking meter. Fits fine. A quality locking skewer and axle replacement will cost about the same as another U-lock and you won't have to carry as much around. But if you go this way go Pitlock or nothing.
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Just wandering around the home improvement box store I'm left wondering how the latest uber-locks will hold up to 18v cordless reciprocating saws, circular saws, and angle grinders... Scary amount of more compact than ever options that seem like they might be equally capable of defeating any and all systems. I like the big chains for sheer intimidation.
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Originally Posted by mconlonx
Just wandering around the home improvement box store I'm left wondering how the latest uber-locks will hold up to 18v cordless reciprocating saws, circular saws, and angle grinders... Scary amount of more compact than ever options that seem like they might be equally capable of defeating any and all systems. I like the big chains for sheer intimidation.
Yeah, my battery powered Sawzall would be the ultimate bike stealing tool, if I cared to get into that business.
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Originally Posted by NewYorkMantle
deep vs on a jamie roy must be a pretty stiff ride. do you have a local bike shop that has one of those kryptonite demonstration parking meters? - at the metro near me, they let you try out different locks on it to see how it fits your tubing and stuff.
I've never seen that before, but thats a really good idea.
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I've always been partial to ULocking the frame to the rack and then using one of those loop-ended cables running through my wheels and just closing it together with the Ulock. The idea was suggested in another thread, and it works great.
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Originally Posted by NewYorkMantle
deep vs on a jamie roy must be a pretty stiff ride. do you have a local bike shop that has one of those kryptonite demonstration parking meters? - at the metro near me, they let you try out different locks on it to see how it fits your tubing and stuff.
Yeah, it's kinda stiff but I like it. Though, I was thinking of picking up a carbon fork to
upgrade from the stock one it came with. I've been looking around but, haven't really had time to seriously search yet. I just moved to Miami so I'm not too farmiliar with all the shops around here except for Business Cycles. Their like 30 - 40 min. drive from the South Beach area so I haven't ventured out to them yet. I have been to a couple shops locally but, neither carried Krypto or Onguard. I was gonna buy online since the prices are cheaper for the most part.

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Oh, I forgot to mention that I am using mavic cxp22 rims, which have a lower profile than the deep v. If you are using the stock fork, you will need at least a 6 inch shackle. FWIW, I use a nashbar carbon fork on mine for most of the year, and that brings the front wheel much closer to the downtube.

Maybe a LBS would let you try a few different locks to see if they would fit?
Like I was saying above, I was already thinking of upgrading my fork to carbon so, maybe that's even more of a reason to do so. In the meantime, before dropping a good portion of dough on one I'd still like to find something to accomedate my setup for the moment.

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I've always been partial to ULocking the frame to the rack and then using one of those loop-ended cables running through my wheels and just closing it together with the Ulock. The idea was suggested in another thread, and it works great.
That is an option but, I think if your gonna use a cable and attach it to a U-lock it doesn't really matter too much because if a thief gets your U-lock off the cable comes off with it. that's why I was opting for a 2nd seperate lock just to make it that much more of a pain in the a** for them.

Regardless, thanks everyone for your input it's all appreciated...

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Originally Posted by Zombie Carl
Yeah, my battery powered Sawzall would be the ultimate bike stealing tool, if I cared to get into that business.
I've never tried, but I would think it would be a bit difficult to use a sawzall to cut a cable. I'd probably stick with an angle grinder. The trouble with a sawzall is that if you can't hold the workpiece in place they don't work very well and something flexible like a cable would be tough.
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exactly... we used sawzall's at the muffler shop i used to work at... they took awhile to cut through steel exhaust pipes, let alone SOLID Ulocks or a flexible cable. It would take multiple blades, let alone quite abit of time.
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battery operated dremel can handle the cable. It's what my friend used when he lost his key.
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