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battles 01-12-08 09:17 AM


Originally Posted by jaypee (Post 5955385)
Mac OS/Darwin/Kubuntu.

I'm a Mac admin at a University, that photo with all the students with Apple laptops could have been taken on our campus.

I'll admit to an occasional yearning for VAX/VMS 'cause it was magical back in those days.

mmmmm.

I don't know why this reminded me of this but ....

My brother gets paid a lot of money by one of the big oil companies to program in APL. I honestly thought that the language was dead and gone, through programming isn't really my cup of tea.

Yes, I asked, special keyboard and all.

Anyway, I just got a great deal on a 2.0 ghz gateway core2duo (300$!), so I am running vista with a dual boot ubuntu64. I am also formatting my old laptop to run the most stable OS out there right now...

Windows XP.

NitroPye 01-12-08 10:01 AM


Originally Posted by eskachig (Post 5968453)
A workstation's lifetime is about 2 years anyhow, anything older is only good for office work.

I disagree (but then again it depends on your line of work). There was a great quote from a book about the Xerox PARC labs. I don't know the exact quote but paraphrased it was something like "I was using a word processor, sending files across our network and making calculations and realized the computer could finally do things faster then me" and that was in reference to a workstation built in the 70s.

Granted we have video games and more intense applications now but I could still develop OpenGL code on my old old Powerbook if I wanted to and be very comfortable with the results and build times. Granted my build times are something like 1 minute longer which is trivial considering the size of some projects.

The only reason I see to upgrade is when graphics chipsets have changed enough to the point I need the newer functions in them. Which takes a while because you need to keep your code runnable on older machines anyway. The only reason I went from my 4 year old Powerbook to this Macbook Pro was because I broke the screen for the 3rd time. :(

dewthedew 01-12-08 10:35 AM

ive got both but i love my macbook pro more.

Zombie Carl 01-12-08 12:09 PM

It's lame, and a waste of time, to argue about grammar and its finer points on a message board.

pinkrobe 01-12-08 12:12 PM

IBM/Lenovo T60
Right-click FTW! :D

wroomwroomoops 01-12-08 12:17 PM


Originally Posted by Zombie Carl (Post 5970214)
It's lame, and a waste of time, to argue about grammar and its finer points on a message board.

Except that there is no argument. It's aboundantly clear how the apostrophe should be used to its full potential - and how it shouldn't.

Zombie Carl 01-12-08 12:19 PM


Originally Posted by wroomwroomoops (Post 5970241)
Except that there is no argument. It's aboundantly clear how the apostrophe should be used to its full potential - and how it shouldn't.

;)

diff_lock2 01-12-08 12:33 PM


Originally Posted by pinkrobe (Post 5970225)
IBM/Lenovo T60
Right-click FTW! :D

ctrl+click ftw lol... macs do right click too, their users on the other hand...j/k

schnee 01-12-08 04:42 PM


Originally Posted by NitroPye (Post 5968596)
Ya I guess "push it to the max" translates to "voltage, timings and clock speed".

I think we can agree having to mess with timings and clock speed is the real lose.

Totally.

Also, the fact that you *didn't* know what he was talking about is a good thing for you. I learned far too much about PC's in my gaming days.

K_phomma 01-12-08 06:02 PM

Should I get a Mac or a PC?

badmother 01-12-08 06:23 PM

Pc. Not so many mac`s in this part of the world. 20% or less? Not sure. I hope somebody out there can tell me why I`we got big problems to see the pix on this site. Not on other sites, just this one. Anybody know why? Is all you mac users using programs that I`we not got on my old hp laptop or is there other reasons? Some of them I can see as black squares with a red X inside. Other times I see nothing, I just understand from the txt there should be a picture. Hope I can see more pix you see, especially the Motobeance mixte that is just like mine..

wroomwroomoops 01-12-08 07:14 PM


Originally Posted by badmother (Post 5971876)
Pc. Not so many mac`s in this part of the world. 20% or less? Not sure. I hope somebody out there can tell me why I`we got big problems to see the pix on this site. Not on other sites, just this one. Anybody know why? Is all you mac users using programs that I`we not got on my old hp laptop or is there other reasons? Some of them I can see as black squares with a red X inside. Other times I see nothing, I just understand from the txt there should be a picture. Hope I can see more pix you see, especially the Motobeance mixte that is just like mine..

Sounds like a browser issue. Which browser do you have? From what you say it seems like the pictures are not downloading correctly.
And by the way, which part of the world is that where you are?

badmother 01-12-08 07:55 PM

Thank you so far. Now I must find a dictionary to look up browswer.. Maybe I`ll remember what it is tomorrow, it is 03.00 at night now. I am in Norway. Not what I want this time of the year.

Yoshi 01-12-08 08:21 PM


Originally Posted by wroomwroomoops (Post 5969316)
This cartoon is dedicated to Moose. I hope it helps.

http://www.angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif

So, Moose, what do you think "it's" is:

- possessive
- contraction
or
- plural
?

Same qeustion for "its".

That comic, applied to "its/it's" is terribly confusing. According to that comic "it's" would be a contraction (correct) or a possessive (incorrect) while "its" would be plural (also incorrect).

endo shi 01-12-08 08:31 PM

Campy... oh wait. Oh, clips/straps... no. Brakes!

wroomwroomoops 01-12-08 09:03 PM


Originally Posted by Yoshi (Post 5972435)
That comic, applied to "its/it's" is terribly confusing. According to that comic "it's" would be a contraction (correct) or a possessive (incorrect) while "its" would be plural (also incorrect).

Good analysis, Yoshi. It's refreshing to see people paying attention to grammar and its intricacies.
http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o...shi-passed.png

Yoshi 01-12-08 10:48 PM

*Whips out Strunk and White, 4th Edition*

wroomwroomoops 01-13-08 12:27 AM


Originally Posted by Yoshi (Post 5973036)
*Whips out Strunk and White, 4th Edition*

I'll have to get my hands on that book (the actual print version). That's seriously good stuff, my friend. Look what I've found at the very beginning!

"The pronominal possessives hers, its, theirs, yours, and oneself have no apostrophe."


By the way, how different is the 4th from the 3rd edition, do you know?

the Didey 01-13-08 01:20 AM

I know that no one is going to read all 8 pages....but i gotta get another linux in here.

ubuntu 7.10

schnee 01-13-08 02:02 AM


Originally Posted by K_phomma (Post 5971773)
Should I get a Mac or a PC?

Get a Mac, and run Windows dual-boot (free), or side by side with OS X, or simultaneously in the same screen.

If you're patient, you can have as many OS's running simultaneously as your RAM and HD allows. I have several different versions of XP (to test web development on IE 5.5, IE6, IE7) on the same Macbook.

Why limit yourself? Just be prepared to slowly but surely ditch Windows for OS X. It's happening to just about every software developer I work with, and this is from kids right out of college to folks with 10-15 years invested in Windows. I think my company's engineering staff are about 30% Mac and growing.

khops 01-13-08 04:55 AM

what's a PC?

gargiulo.mike 01-13-08 09:00 AM

a mac^

charlesxbronson 01-13-08 09:07 AM

Ooooooooooooooo

bbattle 01-13-08 09:56 AM

24" iMac

ianjk 01-13-08 11:54 AM


Originally Posted by schnee (Post 5973528)
Why limit yourself? Just be prepared to slowly but surely ditch Windows for OS X. It's happening to just about every software developer I work with, and this is from kids right out of college to folks with 10-15 years invested in Windows. I think my company's engineering staff are about 30% Mac and growing.

Just curious, what kind of software developement are you doing... do you mean "web" developement?

I rarely see people doing actual software dev. on/for mac.

humancongereel 01-13-08 02:50 PM

i like the one with the screen, all the buttons with those letters on it.

NitroPye 01-13-08 08:16 PM


Originally Posted by ianjk (Post 5974710)
Just curious, what kind of software developement are you doing... do you mean "web" developement?

I rarely see people doing actual software dev. on/for mac.

We exist.

As for the "actual software dev" thing, the line between web and real dev is getting blurred. Almost every application I work on these days now in some way or shape has a web interface involved.

kergin 01-13-08 08:36 PM


Originally Posted by NitroPye (Post 5977004)
We exist.

As for the "actual software dev" thing, the line between web and real dev is getting blurred. Almost every application I work on these days now in some way or shape has a web interface involved.

Truth. I can't think of a "web developer" job that doesn't involve serious back-end programming in Java, Perl, PHP, Python, Ruby, ASP, etc... I guess the closest thing that you could relate to a "web developer" would be the person who does CSS, but even that's more of a design thing.

NitroPye 01-13-08 09:31 PM


Originally Posted by kergin (Post 5977122)
Truth. I can't think of a "web developer" job that doesn't involve serious back-end programming in Java, Perl, PHP, Python, Ruby, ASP, etc... I guess the closest thing that you could relate to a "web developer" would be the person who does CSS, but even that's more of a design thing.

Yep. I do shy away from the term "web developer" when I talk about my work though. So many people think it is just "making websites".

Satan 01-14-08 12:32 PM

Pc


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