Let's talk threaded headsets
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Let's talk threaded headsets
So I've been considering a few options:
https://www.benscycle.net/index.php?m...oducts_id=2313
https://www.benscycle.net/index.php?m...oducts_id=2315
https://parts.spicercycles.com/page.c...ils&sku=HD8500
https://parts.spicercycles.com/page.c...ils&sku=HD8456
Anything else I should look at? I'm not really willing to drop down for a king or hatta just so you know.
https://www.benscycle.net/index.php?m...oducts_id=2313
https://www.benscycle.net/index.php?m...oducts_id=2315
https://parts.spicercycles.com/page.c...ils&sku=HD8500
https://parts.spicercycles.com/page.c...ils&sku=HD8456
Anything else I should look at? I'm not really willing to drop down for a king or hatta just so you know.
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you can get a tange passage (second link) for $8.40
https://jensonusa.com/store/product/H...d+Headset.aspx
i use it, and like it ... i might upgrade to the levin eventually but no complaints
you can get the levin at jenson aswell, for $20
https://jensonusa.com/store/product/H...d+Headset.aspx
i use it, and like it ... i might upgrade to the levin eventually but no complaints
you can get the levin at jenson aswell, for $20
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So I've been considering a few options:
https://www.benscycle.net/index.php?m...oducts_id=2313
https://www.benscycle.net/index.php?m...oducts_id=2315
https://parts.spicercycles.com/page.c...ils&sku=HD8500
https://parts.spicercycles.com/page.c...ils&sku=HD8456
Anything else I should look at? I'm not really willing to drop down for a king or hatta just so you know.
https://www.benscycle.net/index.php?m...oducts_id=2313
https://www.benscycle.net/index.php?m...oducts_id=2315
https://parts.spicercycles.com/page.c...ils&sku=HD8500
https://parts.spicercycles.com/page.c...ils&sku=HD8456
Anything else I should look at? I'm not really willing to drop down for a king or hatta just so you know.
Beater bike do post #2.
Non beater bike do post #3.
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i've had a tange levin (#1) in silver for a couple years with no problem. it's nice and classy looking and i've had zero problems. i didn't know anything about it when i bought it but i'd recommend it to anyone.
you really can't go wrong with a 105 either though, i think it just depends what look you are going for... classic or modern
you really can't go wrong with a 105 either though, i think it just depends what look you are going for... classic or modern
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i have the shimano 105 on my 08 pista but i also have the tange levin cds in black jus sitting in my parts bin. but i decided to use the shimano instead cause i prefer sealed bearings over the loose ball ones. aesthetically speaking i prefer the looks on the tange cds.
jelly arent u using the bikeworksnyc fork ?
jelly arent u using the bikeworksnyc fork ?
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i'm curious as to why you're going so budget on such an important component...
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i've had the 105 on my bike for the last 2 years and i love the **** out of it.
that said i'm springing for the dura ace on my next build
that said i'm springing for the dura ace on my next build
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I guess that's a valid point. Number one, it's not a beater for me, but for most people it would be. It's just a pista with a new fork and a number of other upgrades but it's my only decent bike. To answer your question more directly though, it was on this board that I read a criticism of king headsets, saying that there's not a whole lot of difference when you're not doing anything overly extreme to your bike. If I heard wrong feel free to let me know, but the spicer guy told me this, "If you were to look at another sealed headset like king I cannot seeing paying over a $100 for a headset even if 10 year warranty. In 10 years you could not wear out over a $100 worth of shimano headsets in my opinion:" and that made sense to me. Lastly, all the headsets I've seen have been between 10 and 40 then upwards of a hundred. Are there any you suggest that aren't 100+ but also aren't "budget"? Sorry for the long winded post, I just have a lot of questions.
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you just want to know which do and which might not.
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as said above, the Tange Levin is a really good loose-bearing headset for the money - I ran one for a few years. Gene has a point about $100 worth of headsets in 10 years, but I still like King headsets (and hubs)!
Campy Records run about $65
Ultegra HD6410 - about $60
I would avoid the Stronglight Delta HS as I have heard of the needle bearing breaking down too quickly.
like kidtwisty said - don't go with a price thinking it will out-perform a lower cost item. Sometimes that may be true, but not all the time.
Campy Records run about $65
Ultegra HD6410 - about $60
I would avoid the Stronglight Delta HS as I have heard of the needle bearing breaking down too quickly.
like kidtwisty said - don't go with a price thinking it will out-perform a lower cost item. Sometimes that may be true, but not all the time.
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Get a used Record HS
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Another thing to keep in mind that if are doing a conversion, sometimes the fork steerer is cut so short that you can't put something like a 105 modern hs on it. The stack height is much more than the old shimano ones.
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It's the difference between night and day, and that's before we begin discussing durability.
Using a nicer sealed bearing headset vs a $10 set is like throwing a frisbee vs a dodgeball. That's a weird analogy, but it really illustrates the difference nicely.
JellyMeetsJam, i ride shimano 600 on my nishiki conversion (rain bike) and dura ace on my bob jackson. Both are sub $100 (the 600 is significantly lower), and both are terriffic; +1 on bitboss' ultegra recommendation. I'd seriously consider avoiding a loose bearing headset if at all possible, as repacking a headset every month or so can be a real pain (and not repacking it can be even worse). A well installed quality headset can be pretty much ignored and adds a ton to a pleasant riding experience.
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it wasn't, but maybe it was a bit over the top.
when i rode loose bearing headsets, i probably cleaned them once every three months or so. sometimes more if i felt one of my bikes was turning sluggishly, but i don't think i ever had to once a month-- not sure why i said that.
but i will add that even a freshly packed headset doesn't rotate as smoothly as a well made sealed bearing set (in my experience), maintenece frequency aside.
when i rode loose bearing headsets, i probably cleaned them once every three months or so. sometimes more if i felt one of my bikes was turning sluggishly, but i don't think i ever had to once a month-- not sure why i said that.
but i will add that even a freshly packed headset doesn't rotate as smoothly as a well made sealed bearing set (in my experience), maintenece frequency aside.
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I honestly didn't think I would notice much of a difference between a Cane Creek S6 and a King, and I did. I also notice a difference between a classic Tange Levin HS and a 105. Headsets are something people short on, but they really shouldn't.
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i bought an 8 dollar tange once, i pitted it in a month...
then i found a cool old shimano 600 headset. it has cartridge bearings and works much better (no pitting).
i even had the luck of finding 10 dollar cane creek headsets that use the same bearings (bought 2) so i am good forever i think...
then i found a cool old shimano 600 headset. it has cartridge bearings and works much better (no pitting).
i even had the luck of finding 10 dollar cane creek headsets that use the same bearings (bought 2) so i am good forever i think...
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I need a JIS 1" headset with a 32m stack. I am looking at the tange levin at jenson: https://jensonusa.com/store/product/H...d+Headset.aspx
would the tange levin work?
what does CDS mean? What's the difference between what Jenson offers and what VO offers ( https://www.velo-orange.com/talealhe.html ) And I would need the 27.0 for JIS correct?
would the tange levin work?
what does CDS mean? What's the difference between what Jenson offers and what VO offers ( https://www.velo-orange.com/talealhe.html ) And I would need the 27.0 for JIS correct?
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I got a Passage for $9 so I could build a frame to see if I liked it. I liked it so I got a Shimano 105 for $50. It is as solid as a f**ing truck and will last at least until Obama is re-elected. There is no comparison in quality. Ya get what you pay for.