Nad Kel

What's the deal with risers today that are way over the top with widths and rises.

Remember the old-skool risers, anything from '01 and before. Risers that were built to ride, not hold your hands 60++++cm apart.

4.5" per side, with a Rise that starts immidiatley after it leaves the quill. Ones that don't use space you won't use and ones that won't get in the way when you turn. I've tried so many different types and they are all the same. I feel like I'm riding 100cm wide bars, which give you extreme move...which equals a massive crash.


And I think I've been to every bike shop. Looks like I need a person that knows how to use their hands and call up a shop-laborer...


Any info? I'm just writing this because I only use steel that I use...why have a width you will never use, seriously. Waste of space, money and time. You can do everything the same with 9" than you can with 50"

exhibitx

uh, cut them down?

mine are 38cm wide with a 1" rise

Straws

mine are 36.75cm with a 1 inch rise and perfect for me. Use your uncut bars for a while, make sure to sprint a bit. You'll get an idea for where on the bar your hands naturally go when you sprint. Cut just beyond that.

Aeroplane

It's a lot easier to cut metal off a bar than to add it back on.

And once you take into account that risers are for mountain bikes, wide bars make sense.

nateintokyo

I see faaaar more impossibly short risers than ones that are too long. But that's usually cuz someone cut 'em.

I_luv_hooters

mine are 1.5" rise and cut to 17" wide. that is perfect for me. I like a quick rise, too.

Nad Kel

Yes yes cut them, I know cutting steel is a breeze. What is not a breeze is that my hands are going to be tilted, not flat. I've riden like that and it's not pleasant. I hear what you all say, and even a 17" is way long.

When I sprint my hands never leave the middle, sides of my hands always meeting on the quill.


Just looking for that extra quick rise. If I could find that then I could cut so size, but until I find steel that's going to rise that fast, I'm out of luck.



Seeing what I mean? Sharp angle staring right when it leaves the stem.

Nad Kel

Yes yes cut them, I know cutting steel is a breeze. What is not a breeze is that my hands are going to be tilted, not flat. I've riden like that and it's not pleasant. I hear what you all say, and even a 17" is way long.

When I sprint my hands never leave the middle, sides of my hands always meeting on the quill.


Just looking for that extra quick rise. If I could find that then I could cut so size, but until I find steel that's going to rise that fast, I'm out of luck.



Seeing what I mean? Sharp angle staring right when it leaves the stem.

Aeroplane

I don't think you'll find many that have a rise that close to the stem. Bending bars inevitably weakens them, and clamping that close to a weakened area probably isn't the best idea. Maybe try flat bars with a higher stem?

kyselad

+1. Complaining about the bars seems to misplace the problem. If you're running your hands very close to the stem, the best option is a flat bar with a taller stem.

Nad Kel

I rode flat bars for about a year but got tired of them. I'm trying to get back into risers, its only been 6 years too long lol
True that bending steel does create weak points but if it's professional you need not even worry - never.

But I like risers for just that - a rise. my stem doesn't go higher, quills never do lol

Hirohsima

I am baffled by this statement. When I sprint, on my road, MTB, and SS bikes my hands always shift to the widest point of my bars naturally. Out of saddle sprinting tends to wiggle the bike a bit. How do you maintain control with your hands so close to center? Just asking, not making commentary.

jim-bob

Do tell.

exhibitx

so you want it to be flat close to the stem, but you don't want to use flats

all risers do is raise the bar, you can get flats with sweep, so i don't get why you can't just use a higher stem



is this just a thread about how stubborn you are? or is it actually about the lack of a product?

Nad Kel

All stems go up but when they do not one bit of height changes.
Plus, $150 for a stem, I'd rather stay with the two I have. I could use the flat bars I have on the other, but I'm tired of them. I like change. lol Nothing complicated.
Just in search of some oldskool parts, thought maybe you guys would know.

jim-bob

I'm, uh, gonna need you to explain this one to me.

Nad Kel

Alright.
You adjust the stem and pull her up alittle *****, but after it's all done you might have moved it a cm higher. Nitto Jags are not built to raise. I've tried it, I'll pull it halfway out and it still feels too low for risers.

jim-bob

That's why you get one of those high-rise stems.

They go very high, hence the term "high-rise".

exhibitx

the nitto technomic stems are made to go high, and are only $35 or so

nateintokyo

you want steel risers? do those exist?

Aeroplane

Yeah, but they are really heavy, so usually folks only use them on gravity-powered bikes (DH, DJ, etc.)

Nad Kel

Of coarse, what else would they be made out of?
Yeah they make them. The ones I got were from my bud though, and he probably had them made..

Don't know. I'll think about the stem, or just get regulars and cop the 100 inches off.

kyselad

Aluminum? Did I miss a joke?

Nad Kel

No, there was no joke. I have never heard of Aluminus constructed risers. I once rode al bars for a few days, stupid vibratiion nearly tore my hands apart...light-weight sucks!

jim-bob

Have you been in cryogenic storage for the past few decades or something?