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Weird Russian Track Bike

Old 02-02-08, 07:00 PM
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Weird Russian Track Bike

Really weird... but I kinda like it. Especially the double seat tube. Not so keen on the handlebar set up but I am sure it serves its purpose well. Here's the linky to the site.
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Old 02-02-08, 07:09 PM
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I feel like I've seen a crown mounted bar somewhere before, but I can't place it. Cool bike though, I love those old obscure things.
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Old 02-02-08, 07:11 PM
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Rather wacky to me...

you could lean wicked forward without hitting your nuts. I hope we can dig some info up on this frame...
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Old 02-02-08, 07:13 PM
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it's probably made from soviet tank parts. I have some old Sovtek guitar pedals that are made from tank parts.
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I can't read the logo--any info on the brand name?
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Old 02-02-08, 07:20 PM
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Sorry I forgot the linky:
http://www.bikecult.com/works/archiv.../takhionV.html
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Its the thing that should not be.
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Woah, the shot with the campagnolo discs is even goofier.
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There is another handlebar setup like this. I think it was a Colnago but don't quote me on it.
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I think someone posted something similar to this a couple weeks back under soviet track bike or something, i'll try and dig it up.
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Old 02-02-08, 08:06 PM
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found it.
http://bikeforums.net/showthread.php...ck+soviet+bike
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I've seen about a dozen crown mounted handlebars around here.. I really like the setup, but I prefer sloping TT pursuit bikes like the one I built
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Kind of proves the old rumor of the former Soviet Union and East German athletic programs surgically altering cyclists.
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Originally Posted by DieselDan View Post
Kind of proves the old rumor of the former Soviet Union and East German athletic programs surgically altering cyclists.
I hope so.
I bet they looked like gorillas with HUGE thighs.
And no body hair, gotta keep em aero.
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There was a period where there were several bikes of similar builds, but the dual seat tube is something I haven't seen done before. An interesting bit of track history right there...
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I think the text on those old soviet bikes looks sweet.
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A fellow in Boston owns one.

http://velospace.org/node/3221 - See the 3rd picture in.

_S
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Split seat tubes are nothing new. Some Italian bikes were built that way to shorten the wheelbase and rear tire would fit in between seattubes. Another option was the bent rear seattube.
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Originally Posted by srkredliner View Post
A fellow in Boston owns one.

http://velospace.org/node/3221 - See the 3rd picture in.

_S
...and he's got a Dugast tire on the front - very interesting bike.

The split seatube reminds me a Rigi road bike I saw reviewed way, way back (mid-eighties) in a bike mag. The seatube was split, and Rigi had to make thier own special front derailleur to fit the right seatube. The two seatubes were very thin, and the wheelbase extremelly tight. The tester found the bike painfully stiff, but insanely fun to sprint on.

The handlebar setup, though, makes me nostalgic for the Gitane time trial bikes that Systeme U and Laurent Fignon rode in the later part of the eighties as well.
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anybody have any info on how the fork is mounted to the frame? it doesn't appear as there is any top bearing up there...
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Originally Posted by jpearl View Post
...and he's got a Dugast tire on the front - very interesting bike.

The split seatube reminds me a Rigi road bike I saw reviewed way, way back (mid-eighties) in a bike mag. The seatube was split, and Rigi had to make thier own special front derailleur to fit the right seatube. The two seatubes were very thin, and the wheelbase extremelly tight. The tester found the bike painfully stiff, but insanely fun to sprint on.

The handlebar setup, though, makes me nostalgic for the Gitane time trial bikes that Systeme U and Laurent Fignon rode in the later part of the eighties as well.
I've seen those Rigi's before (didn't remember the name though)

Quite a few people have mounted the stem to the fork. This one's my favorite.


I think it was mostly a response to the rules that said that both wheels had to be the same size. If you can't move the whole headtube down, just move the stem and bars.

Of course, I think the pic above may disprove my theory. I can't tell if the front is smaller or if it's just the photo.
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that Colnago is beautiful

there's at least one Rigi track bike running around Tokyo. I posted a pic a while back in the other thread.
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those colnago discs are sick.
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Originally Posted by frankstoneline View Post
I hope so.
I bet they looked like gorillas with HUGE thighs.
And no body hair, gotta keep em aero.
And those were the women!
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Originally Posted by zonatandem View Post
Split seat tubes are nothing new. Some Italian bikes were built that way to shorten the wheelbase and rear tire would fit in between seattubes. Another option was the bent rear seattube.
I should have been more specific, I have not seen a split seat tube AND the fork crown mounted bars before.
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